[gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Elmar Hinz]

The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
environment variable in make.conf.

What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
UNICODE setting.

Al

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz 
did opine thusly:

> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> environment variable in make.conf.
> 
> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> UNICODE setting.


It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Elmar Hinz]

2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
> did opine thusly:
>
>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>
>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>> UNICODE setting.
>
>
> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>

Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.

Has it anything to do with portage at all?

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 13:48 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Elmar Hinz 
did opine thusly:

> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar
> > Hinz
> > 
> > did opine thusly:
> >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> >> environment variable in make.conf.
> >> 
> >> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> >> UNICODE setting.
> > 
> > It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
> 
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
> 
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?

It's in make.conf isn't it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Nganon]

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On 19 August 2010 14:48, Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar
> Hinz
> > did opine thusly:
> >
> >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> >> environment variable in make.conf.
> >>
> >> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> >> UNICODE setting.
> >
> >
> > It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
> >
>
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>
>
It has something to with packages that has localization support,
thus everything to with portage.

Global linguas flags are set in make.conf as
LINGUAS="en de ru"

and application specific ones can be set in package.use as
www-client/firefox linguas_en_GB
app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Graham Murray]

Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:

> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>> did opine thusly:
>>
>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>
>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>> UNICODE setting.
>>
>>
>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>
>
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?

Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
which languages to include/support.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Florian CROUZAT]

On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:

> Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:
> 
>> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>>> did opine thusly:
>>> 
>>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>> 
>>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>>> UNICODE setting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>> 
>> 
>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>> 
>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
> 
> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
> which languages to include/support.

I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
Check this output:
 $ type -a [
[ est une primitive du shell
[ est /usr/bin/[

[ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support.
How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas.


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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Arttu V.]

On 8/19/10, Florian CROUZAT <gentoo@floriancrouzat.net> wrote:
>
> On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:
>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
>
> I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
> Check this output:
>  $ type -a [
> [ est une primitive du shell
> [ est /usr/bin/[
>
> [ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
> I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be
> emerged with the linguas support.
> How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't
> tweak my linguas.

Check for the tell-tale USE="nls" flag in the ebuilds.

Not all ebuild's bother listing explicitly out all of the LINGUAS
their sources actually support. coreutils is one of the lazy ones.

Just look at its sources: 39 different .po files, that's 39
localizations available. No point printing out such monstrous long
lists -- your localization is in there, period! ;)  But coreutils does
obey LINGUAS anyway. It only installs what you have in your LINGUAS
(check, e.g., with equery files coreutils).

Openoffice is a special case (surprise!). Its ebuild depends
dynamically on spell-check packages depending on the value of LINGUAS
-- so the poor Gentoo OOo maintainers must list out every supported
lingua in the ebuild. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Bill Longman]

On 08/19/2010 05:37 AM, Florian CROUZAT wrote:
> 
> On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:
> 
>> Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>>>> did opine thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>>>
>>>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>>>> UNICODE setting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
> 
> I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
> Check this output:
>  $ type -a [
> [ est une primitive du shell
> [ est /usr/bin/[
> 
> [ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
> I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support.
> How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas.

As others have said, it's the nls setting that does this. Specifically,
the string "est une primitive du shell" is part of the i18n that's in
the bash binary. When you set LANG or LC_MESSAGES to something
different, i.e., el_GR, you'll get the Greek translation. The man page
for locale has lots of info about this.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Elmar Hinz]

>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>
>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>
> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
> which languages to include/support.
>

When  Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense.

On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
portage specific.

So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales?

Al

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Arttu V.]

On 8/19/10, Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
>>
>
> When  Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense.
>
> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
> portage specific.
>
> So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales?

No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and
also reading too much into the file names. "make.conf" should really
rather be called "portage.conf". That would make much more sense IMHO.
:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Elmar Hinz]

>
> No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and
> also reading too much into the file names. "make.conf" should really
> rather be called "portage.conf". That would make much more sense IMHO.
> :)
>

As long as the source is the documentation, it should be possible by
concept to read in filenames.

I think you are right, that portage.conf would be the natural name.

Al

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Andrea Conti]

> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
> portage specific.

LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the
compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which
have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many
others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be
controlled on a per-package basis as others have said.

On the other hand, things like bash and coreutils usually have a "nls"
USE flag which controls the compile-time inclusion of *all* supported
localizations.

Packages built with support for multiple locales will usually pick the
right one at run-time by looking at the LANG and LC_* environment variables.
(See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 for
more details)

andrea

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Elmar Hinz]

2010/8/19 Andrea Conti <alyf@alyf.net>:
>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>> portage specific.
>
> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific.

Really?

Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage
has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if
you compile something without portage.

But is the following generalization correct?

* LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
* LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).

Al

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Bill Longman]

On 08/19/2010 06:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:
> 2010/8/19 Andrea Conti <alyf@alyf.net>:
>>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>>> portage specific.
>>
>> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific.
> 
> Really?
> 
> Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage
> has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if
> you compile something without portage.
> 
> But is the following generalization correct?
> 
> * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
> * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).

Yeah, but with the caveat that LANG is the generalization for all the
LC_* variables.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Mike Edenfield]

On 8/19/2010 9:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:

> But is the following generalization correct?
> 
> * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
> * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).

Yes, as long as you're aware that LINGUAS support is recommended, but
optional.  A package that simply installs every .po file it has will
still operate in the correct locale based on your LANG setting, it will
just waste a lot of space.

--Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Mike Edenfield]

On 8/19/2010 9:33 AM, Andrea Conti wrote:
>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>> portage specific.
> 
> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the
> compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which
> have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many
> others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be
> controlled on a per-package basis as others have said.

It's more accurate to say LINGUAS is "build-time specific".  Portage is
not the only build process/package manager/configuration system/coffee
maker that knows what LINGUAS means.  It's the "official" (as far as
there is such a thing) place to store the list of gettext translations
you want on your system, and most autotools-based builds and binary
package managers also recognize it.

--Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Andrea Conti]

> It's the "official" (as far as
> there is such a thing) place to store the list of gettext translations
> you want on your system, and most autotools-based builds and binary
> package managers also recognize it.

I didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying!

andrea

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[David W Noon]

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:50:02 +0200, Elmar Hinz wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] LINGUAS:

>2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010,
>> Elmar Hinz did opine thusly:
>>
>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>
>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near
>>> the UNICODE setting.
>>
>>
>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>
>
>Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.

Not really.

>Has it anything to do with portage at all?

The LINGUAS variable is used by many packages that use
internationalization (i18n) or localization (l10n).  It is the standard
place for an ebuild to check what National Language Support (NLS) is
required for a package.  Check which packages you have installed that
have the "nls" USE flag.
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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Alexander Skwar]

Michael George schrieb:
> I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
> output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
> variable:
> 
>  LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
>  -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
>  -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
>  -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
>  -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
> 
> Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
> of them will be?

If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.

> The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire.  I set it to:
> LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.

How? What's shown?

> Where are those settings coming from?

make.conf

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Michael George]

On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 05:20:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Michael George schrieb:
> >I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
> >output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
> >variable:
> >
> > LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
> > -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
> > -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
> > -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
> > -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
> >
> >Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
> >of them will be?
> 
> If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.

Okay, that's what I figured it meant.

> >The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> >in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire.  I set it to:
> >LINGUAS="en_US"
> >but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
> 
> How? What's shown?

If I put LINGUAS="en_US" into make.conf, then the LINGUAS line reads:

LINGUAS="en_US% -af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de%
-el% -en% -en_GB% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
-hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
-ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
-sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"

en_US is put on the front and -en_US disappears from the list.  I didn't
notice it disappearing before...

> >Where are those settings coming from?
> 
> make.conf

Any that I specify to be built are in make.conf, but there is nothing in
make.conf that specifies the "-" entries....

Thank you for your reply!

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Alexander Skwar]

Michael George schrieb:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 05:20:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Michael George schrieb:
>> >I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
>> >output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
>> >variable:
>> >
>> > LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
>> > -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
>> > -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
>> > -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
>> > -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>> >
>> >Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
>> >of them will be?
>> 
>> If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.
> 
> Okay, that's what I figured it meant.
> 
>> >The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
>> >in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire.  I set it to:
>> >LINGUAS="en_US"
>> >but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
>> 
>> How? What's shown?
> 
> If I put LINGUAS="en_US" into make.conf, then the LINGUAS line reads:
> 
> LINGUAS="en_US% -af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de%
> -el% -en% -en_GB% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
> -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
> -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
> -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
> 
> en_US is put on the front and -en_US disappears from the list.  

See, it works just like a USE flag. Means: You now enabled the en_US linguas.

>> >Where are those settings coming from?
>> 
>> make.conf
> 
> Any that I specify to be built are in make.conf, but there is nothing in
> make.conf that specifies the "-" entries....

Of course not - just like there's (mostly) nothing in your make.conf
or package.use, which specifies "- USE flags".

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Richard Fish]

On 7/29/06, Michael George <george@mutualdata.com> wrote:
> The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire.  I set it to:
> LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.

Look closer; it should put "en_US" at the begining of the string, and
remove the "-en_US" from the middle.  The normal configuration of
portage is to display set USE flags first, followed by the unset
flags, and each group is sorted alphabetically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Michael George]

On 7/29/06, Michael George <george@mutualdata.com> wrote:
>The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
>in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire.  I set it to:
>LINGUAS="en_US"
>but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.

Thanks to all who responded to my questions.  I now have a better
understanding of this variable, USE flags, and emerge in general.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Benno Schulenberg]

Michael George wrote:
>  LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da%
> -de% -el% -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr%
> -gu_IN% -he% -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb%
> -nl% -nn% -nr% -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU%
> -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st% -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh%
> -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>
> Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or
> that ALL of them will be?

None, as they all start with a minus sign.

> I set it to: LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string
> above.

Not quite: it also removes the -en_US.  It makes no difference, 
though, as the ebuild uses en_US by default when LINGUAS is empty.

> Where are those settings coming from?

>From the ebuild: it specifies that it can handle LANGS="af ar ...".

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download

[go moko]

--- Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

> > No, I've checked that. And libXext is just an
> example,
> > but other packages (a minority) act as this one.
> > emerge try to download the exact file that I've
> put in
> > /usr/portage/distfiles. I checked this too by
> doing an
> > 'ls -l' on the file that emerge try to download
> (by
> > cut'n paste, to be sure), and the file is here,
> with
> > good rights and nothing special.
> 
> I've worked this way before, and it is definitely
> possible to do.

I agree. All others packages until this one and some
others linked to x11 worked fine with this method.
It's why I don't understand what's happen.

> Can you post the output of:
> 
> emerge -pv --fetchonly libXext

These are the packages that would be fetched, in
order:

Calculating dependencies  
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/lib/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/everything/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2

... done!


> ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*

-rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
/usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2


> emerge --info

Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre16
Portage 2.1_pre7-r3 (default-linux/amd64/2005.1,
gcc-3.4.5, glibc-2.3.6-r2, 2.6.15-gentoo-r2 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r2 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm)
64 Processor 3500+
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
dev-lang/python:     2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1,
1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r1, 2.16.1-r2
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=k8 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config
/usr/lib64/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/X11/xkb
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/eselect/compiler /etc/gconf
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
/etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=k8 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig buildpkg ccache digest distlocks
metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
LINGUAS="fr en en-us -ab -ace -ach -ada -aa -afh -af
-aka -akk -sq -ale -am -i-ami -ar -ar-dz -ar-eg -ar-iq
-ar-jo -ar-kw -ar-lb -ar-ly -ar-ma -ar-om -ar-qa
-ar-sa -ar-sy -ar-tn -ar-ye -arc -arp -arn -arw -hy
-as -ava -ae -awa -ay -az -ban -bal -bam -bad -bas -ba
-eu -btk -bej -be -bem -bn -bho -bh -bik -bin -bi -bs
-bra -br -bug -bg -i-bnn -bua -my -cad -car -ca -ceb
-chg -ch -ce -chr -chy -chb -ny -zh -zh-mo -zh-sg
-zh-min-nan -zh-wuu -zh-xiang -zh-gan -zh-yue -chn
-chp -cho -cu -chk -cv -cop -kw -co -cre -mus -hr -cs
-dak -da -day -i-default -del -din -div -doi -dgr -dua
-nl -nl-be -dum -dyu -dz -efi -egy -eka -elx -en-ca
-en-gb -en-ie -en-jm -en-nz -en-ph -en-tt -en-za
-en-zw -enm -ang -eo -et -ewe -ewo -fan -fat -fo -fj
-fi -fon -fr-ca -fr-ch -fr-lu -fr-mc -frm -fro -fy
-fur -ful -gaa -gd -gl -lug -gay -gba -gez -ka -de
-de-ch -de-de -de-li -de-lu -gmh -goh -gil -gon -gor
-got -grb -grc -el -gn -gu -gwi -hai -ha -haw -he -hz
-hil -him -hi -ho -hit -hmn -hu -hup -iba -is -ibo
-ijo -ilo -id -ia -ie -iu -ik -ga -mga -sga -it -ja
-jw -jrb -jpr -kab -kac -kl -kam -kn -kau -kaa -kar
-ks -kaw -kk -kha -km -kho -ki -kmb -rw -ky -i-klingon
-kv -kon -kok -ko -kos -kpe -kro -kj -kum -ku -kru
-kut -lad -lah -lam -lo -la -lv -lb -lez -ln -lt -nds
-loz -lub -lua -lui -lun -luo -lus -mk -mad -mag -mai
-mak -mg -ms -ml -mnc -mdr -man -mni -gv -mi -mr -chm
-mas -men -mic -min -i-mingo -moh -mo -lol -mn -mos
-nah -na -nv -nd -nr -ng -ne -new -nia -niu -non -se
-no -nb -nn -nym -nyn -nyo -nzi -oc -oji -or -om -osa
-os -pal -i-pwn -pau -pi -pam -pag -pa -pap -fa -peo
-phn -pon -pl -pt -pt-br -pro -ps -qu -rm -raj -rap
-rar -ro -rom -rn -ru -sam -sm -sad -sg -sa -sat -sc
-sco -sel -sr -srr -shn -sn -sid -sgn-gb -sgn-ie -bla
-sd -si -den -sk -sl -sog -so -son -snk -wen -nso -st
-es -es-cl -es-co -es-do -es-ec -es-es -es-gt -es-hn
-es-mx -es-pa -es-pe -es-pr -es-py -es-sv -es-us
-es-uy -es-ve -suk -sux -su -sus -sw -ss -sv -syr -tl
-ty -tg -tmh -ta -i-tao -tt -i-tay -te -ter -tet -th
-bo -tig -ti -tem -tiv -tli -tpi -tkl -tog -to -tsi
-ts -i-tsu -tn -tum -tr -ota -tk -tvl -tyv -tw -uga
-ug -uk -umb -und -ur -uz -vai -vi -vo -vot -wal -war
-was -cy -wo -xh -sah -yao -yap -yi -yo -znd -zen -za
-zu -zun"
MAKEOPTS="-j1"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="amd64 X Xaw3d a52 aac aalib accessibility acl
acpi adns aim alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi
bash-completion bcmath berkdb bidi bindist
bitmap-fonts blas bonobo boundschecking bzip2 calendar
caps cdb cdparanoia cdr chasen cjk crypt cscope ctype
cups curl curlwrappers dba dbase dbm dbus dbx
dedicated dga diet dio directfb divx4linux doc dri dv
dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emacs emacs-w3 emboss
emul-linux-x86 encode esd ethereal evo examples exif
expat fam fastcgi fbcon ffmpeg fftw flac flash
flatfile foomaticdb fortran freetds ftp gb gcj gd gdbm
geoip ggi gif ginac glut gmp gnome gnustep gnutls
gphoto2 gpm gps gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal
hardened hardenedphp howl hyperwave-api iconv icq
ieee1394 imagemagick imap imlib inifile innodb iodbc
ipv6 isdnlog jabber jack java javascript jikes jpeg
junit kde kdeenablefinal kerberos krb4 ladcca lapack
lcms ldap leim lesstif libcaca libg++ libgda libwww
lirc lm_sensors lzw lzw-tiff m17n-lib mad maildir
mailwrapper matroska mbox mcal mcve memlimit mhash
mikmod milter mime ming mmap mng mnogosearch mono
motif mozilla mp3 mpeg mpi msession msql mssql mule
mysql mysqli nas ncurses neXt netcdf nis nls nocd nptl
oci8 odbc ofx ogg oggvorbis openal opengl oracle osc
oscar oss pam pcntl pcre pda pdflib perl php plotutils
png portaudio posix postgres ppds pppd prelude python
qdbm qt quicktime radius readline recode ruby samba
sasl scanner sdl session sharedext sharedmemshorten
simplexml skey slang slp sndfile snmp soap sockets
socks5 sox speex spell spl sqlite ssl svg sysvipc szip
tcltk tcpd test tetex theora threads tidy tiff
tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode
usb v4l vcd vddx verbose vhosts videos vorbis wmf
wxwindows xface xine xinerama xml xml2 xmlrpc xmms
xosd xpm xprint xsl xv xvid yaz zeo zlib elibc_glibc
kernel_linux linguas_fr linguas_en linguas_en-us
linguas_-ab linguas_-ace linguas_-ach linguas_-ada
linguas_-aa linguas_-afh linguas_-af linguas_-aka
linguas_-akk linguas_-sq linguas_-ale linguas_-am
linguas_-i-ami linguas_-ar linguas_-ar-dz
linguas_-ar-eg linguas_-ar-iq linguas_-ar-jo
linguas_-ar-kw linguas_-ar-lb linguas_-ar-ly
linguas_-ar-ma linguas_-ar-om linguas_-ar-qa
linguas_-ar-sa linguas_-ar-sy linguas_-ar-tn
linguas_-ar-ye linguas_-arc linguas_-arp linguas_-arn
linguas_-arw linguas_-hy linguas_-as linguas_-ava
linguas_-ae linguas_-awa linguas_-ay linguas_-az
linguas_-ban linguas_-bal linguas_-bam linguas_-bad
linguas_-bas linguas_-ba linguas_-eu linguas_-btk
linguas_-bej linguas_-be linguas_-bem linguas_-bn
linguas_-bho linguas_-bh linguas_-bik linguas_-bin
linguas_-bi linguas_-bs linguas_-bra linguas_-br
linguas_-bug linguas_-bg linguas_-i-bnn linguas_-bua
linguas_-my linguas_-cad linguas_-car linguas_-ca
linguas_-ceb linguas_-chg linguas_-ch linguas_-ce
linguas_-chr linguas_-chy linguas_-chb linguas_-ny
linguas_-zh linguas_-zh-mo linguas_-zh-sg
linguas_-zh-min-nan linguas_-zh-wuu linguas_-zh-xiang
linguas_-zh-gan linguas_-zh-yue linguas_-chn
linguas_-chp linguas_-cho linguas_-cu linguas_-chk
linguas_-cv linguas_-cop linguas_-kw linguas_-co
linguas_-cre linguas_-mus linguas_-hr linguas_-cs
linguas_-dak linguas_-da linguas_-day
linguas_-i-default linguas_-del linguas_-din
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linguas_-dz linguas_-efi linguas_-egy linguas_-eka
linguas_-elx linguas_-en-ca linguas_-en-gb
linguas_-en-ie linguas_-en-jm linguas_-en-nz
linguas_-en-ph linguas_-en-tt linguas_-en-za
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linguas_-et linguas_-ewe linguas_-ewo linguas_-fan
linguas_-fat linguas_-fo linguas_-fj linguas_-fi
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linguas_-fr-lu linguas_-fr-mc linguas_-frm
linguas_-fro linguas_-fy linguas_-fur linguas_-ful
linguas_-gaa linguas_-gd linguas_-gl linguas_-lug
linguas_-gay linguas_-gba linguas_-gez linguas_-ka
linguas_-de linguas_-de-ch linguas_-de-de
linguas_-de-li linguas_-de-lu linguas_-gmh
linguas_-goh linguas_-gil linguas_-gon linguas_-gor
linguas_-got linguas_-grb linguas_-grc linguas_-el
linguas_-gn linguas_-gu linguas_-gwi linguas_-hai
linguas_-ha linguas_-haw linguas_-he linguas_-hz
linguas_-hil linguas_-him linguas_-hi linguas_-ho
linguas_-hit linguas_-hmn linguas_-hu linguas_-hup
linguas_-iba linguas_-is linguas_-ibo linguas_-ijo
linguas_-ilo linguas_-id linguas_-ia linguas_-ie
linguas_-iu linguas_-ik linguas_-ga linguas_-mga
linguas_-sga linguas_-it linguas_-ja linguas_-jw
linguas_-jrb linguas_-jpr linguas_-kab linguas_-kac
linguas_-kl linguas_-kam linguas_-kn linguas_-kau
linguas_-kaa linguas_-kar linguas_-ks linguas_-kaw
linguas_-kk linguas_-kha linguas_-km linguas_-kho
linguas_-ki linguas_-kmb linguas_-rw linguas_-ky
linguas_-i-klingon linguas_-kv linguas_-kon
linguas_-kok linguas_-ko linguas_-kos linguas_-kpe
linguas_-kro linguas_-kj linguas_-kum linguas_-ku
linguas_-kru linguas_-kut linguas_-lad linguas_-lah
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linguas_-lb linguas_-lez linguas_-ln linguas_-lt
linguas_-nds linguas_-loz linguas_-lub linguas_-lua
linguas_-lui linguas_-lun linguas_-luo linguas_-lus
linguas_-mk linguas_-mad linguas_-mag linguas_-mai
linguas_-mak linguas_-mg linguas_-ms linguas_-ml
linguas_-mnc linguas_-mdr linguas_-man linguas_-mni
linguas_-gv linguas_-mi linguas_-mr linguas_-chm
linguas_-mas linguas_-men linguas_-mic linguas_-min
linguas_-i-mingo linguas_-moh linguas_-mo linguas_-lol
linguas_-mn linguas_-mos linguas_-nah linguas_-na
linguas_-nv linguas_-nd linguas_-nr linguas_-ng
linguas_-ne linguas_-new linguas_-nia linguas_-niu
linguas_-non linguas_-se linguas_-no linguas_-nb
linguas_-nn linguas_-nym linguas_-nyn linguas_-nyo
linguas_-nzi linguas_-oc linguas_-oji linguas_-or
linguas_-om linguas_-osa linguas_-os linguas_-pal
linguas_-i-pwn linguas_-pau linguas_-pi linguas_-pam
linguas_-pag linguas_-pa linguas_-pap linguas_-fa
linguas_-peo linguas_-phn linguas_-pon linguas_-pl
linguas_-pt linguas_-pt-br linguas_-pro linguas_-ps
linguas_-qu linguas_-rm linguas_-raj linguas_-rap
linguas_-rar linguas_-ro linguas_-rom linguas_-rn
linguas_-ru linguas_-sam linguas_-sm linguas_-sad
linguas_-sg linguas_-sa linguas_-sat linguas_-sc
linguas_-sco linguas_-sel linguas_-sr linguas_-srr
linguas_-shn linguas_-sn linguas_-sid linguas_-sgn-gb
linguas_-sgn-ie linguas_-bla linguas_-sd linguas_-si
linguas_-den linguas_-sk linguas_-sl linguas_-sog
linguas_-so linguas_-son linguas_-snk linguas_-wen
linguas_-nso linguas_-st linguas_-es linguas_-es-cl
linguas_-es-co linguas_-es-do linguas_-es-ec
linguas_-es-es linguas_-es-gt linguas_-es-hn
linguas_-es-mx linguas_-es-pa linguas_-es-pe
linguas_-es-pr linguas_-es-py linguas_-es-sv
linguas_-es-us linguas_-es-uy linguas_-es-ve
linguas_-suk linguas_-sux linguas_-su linguas_-sus
linguas_-sw linguas_-ss linguas_-sv linguas_-syr
linguas_-tl linguas_-ty linguas_-tg linguas_-tmh
linguas_-ta linguas_-i-tao linguas_-tt linguas_-i-tay
linguas_-te linguas_-ter linguas_-tet linguas_-th
linguas_-bo linguas_-tig linguas_-ti linguas_-tem
linguas_-tiv linguas_-tli linguas_-tpi linguas_-tkl
linguas_-tog linguas_-to linguas_-tsi linguas_-ts
linguas_-i-tsu linguas_-tn linguas_-tum linguas_-tr
linguas_-ota linguas_-tk linguas_-tvl linguas_-tyv
linguas_-tw linguas_-uga linguas_-ug linguas_-uk
linguas_-umb linguas_-und linguas_-ur linguas_-uz
linguas_-vai linguas_-vi linguas_-vo linguas_-vot
linguas_-wal linguas_-war linguas_-was linguas_-cy
linguas_-wo linguas_-xh linguas_-sah linguas_-yao
linguas_-yap linguas_-yi linguas_-yo linguas_-znd
linguas_-zen linguas_-za linguas_-zu linguas_-zun
userland_GNU"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS,
INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY


Hope this helps.
Thx
G. Moko


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download

[Benno Schulenberg]

go moko wrote:
> LINGUAS="fr en en-us -ab -ace -ach -ada -aa -afh -af
> -aka -akk -sq -ale -am -i-ami -ar -ar-dz -ar-eg -ar-iq
> -ar-jo -ar-kw -ar-lb -ar-ly -ar-ma -ar-om -ar-qa
> [...]

O.O

Mention in LINGUAS only the languages you want to have available, 
not anything else.  LINGUAS is not like USE, it doesn't know about 
the minus sign, as you can see further down: it assumes that "-ab", 
"-ace" and so on are languages:

> linguas_-ab linguas_-ace linguas_-ach linguas_-ada
> linguas_-aa linguas_-afh linguas_-af linguas_-aka
> linguas_-akk linguas_-sq linguas_-ale linguas_-am

Just put LINGUAS="fr en".  I'm unsure whether en-us is recognized.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download

[Matthias Bethke]

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Hi Benno,
on Wednesday, 2006-04-05 at 14:50:29, you wrote:
> Just put LINGUAS="fr en".  I'm unsure whether en-us is recognized.

The Localization Guide isn't very clear about the syntax of these, nor
how to get a list of available codes. I guess the basic ones are the
two-letter ISO codes as for locales, but is it "en-us", "en_US" or
something? Is it case sensitive at all?

cheers!
	Matthias
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[gentoo-user] LINGUAS

[Benno Schulenberg]

Matthias Bethke wrote:
> on Wednesday, 2006-04-05 at 14:50:29, you wrote:
> > Just put LINGUAS="fr en".  I'm unsure whether en-us is
> > recognized.
>
> The Localization Guide isn't very clear about the syntax of
> these, nor how to get a list of available codes. I guess the
> basic ones are the two-letter ISO codes as for locales, but is it
> "en-us", "en_US" or something?

The latter.  Grepping through the ebuilds for "LINGUAS" shows that 
it checks in some places for codes like pt_BR and zh_CN.  So the 
original poster could use LINGUAS="fr en en_US".

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