From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PIwUc-0001nl-NC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:53:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5BC3E064B; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F3BE064B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:52:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,215,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="231104045" Received: from 213-152-39-90.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2010 04:52:40 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [192.168.1.101]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F6D12032 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)? From: Stroller In-Reply-To: <20101118004329.GB23732@waltdnes.org> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:52:39 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20101116222819.6ab37a91@karnak.local> <201011170200.49241.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20101118004329.GB23732@waltdnes.org> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Archives-Salt: 0591cc43-f037-44b9-831c-113bd4a52035 X-Archives-Hash: 995c8d47cbeeef079a7c199c6c750d12 On 18/11/2010, at 12:43am, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:00:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote >=20 >> If you then mentioned that their defaults broke Dale's setup, they'd >> likely answer "Who's Dale?" followed shortly by "None of us have >> hardware like Dale to test. Sorry 'bout that. Set USE=3D-hal" >=20 > Of course the USE flag advice is given *AFTER* the new flag breaks > your system. That's why I use "-*" at the beginning of my USE in > /etc/make.conf. I never found out whether hal would break my = system. > If Dale had used "-*" his X would not have broken, even if some other > ebuild pulled it onto the machine as a hard-coded dependancy. Uh, except sometimes a USE flag is added to a package and set to USE=3Dfoo= by default, with USE=3Dfoo maintaining the original behaviour. = Therefore by selecting "USE=3D-*" you may be changing your system's = behaviour. You claim to be "a control freak" but you seem to be doing this to avoid = the "chore" of properly inspecting USE flags each time you emerge. If = you `emerge --pretend` before every update you make, you would see = what's changed! What's the point in running `emerge --pretend` if you = don't look at it!?!? Further to the aside in the email I sent a minute = or two ago, all the changed USE flags in Portage's output show up in = bright yellow or green, BTW, so they're easy to spot. I have a feeling that we're not going to convince you that you're doing = things "wrong", so I apologise if my tone sounds strident. I beg you to = try it. Stroller.