* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
@ 2017-12-12 18:55 99% ` Alan Mackenzie
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From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2017-12-12 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hello.
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 01:01:29 -0600, J García wrote:
> 2017-12-11 15:03 GMT-06:00 Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>:
> > OK. But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
> > systemd system a broader target for attacks. Whether a system has an
> > http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
> > should be for the system administrator to decide. I suspect this isn't
> > the case for systemd's http server.
> Too much suspicion, too much assumtions,
One doesn't get by in contemporary life without them. My suspicion,
founded on the content of a normally reliable mailing list (this one) is
that systemd would (i) build into my system much that I don't want to
use; (ii) would force me into using some of that stuff. openrc doesn't
have these attributes.
> $ equery -N u systemd | grep http
> - - http : Enable embedded HTTP server in journald
> $ grep -C 2 http $PORTDIR/sys-apps/systemd/systemd-235-r1.ebuild
> 42: http? (
> 43: >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
> 44- ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
> 45- )
> 42: http? (
> 43: >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
> 44- ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
> 45- )
> I prefer certainty, don't you?
If certainty were free of costs, or even cheap, then yes.
> It is actually more useful to check the software, than lose your time
> with so many words on this list.
No, it would take far too much time and effort to check out the
software, particularly for something I have no use for.
You seem to know systemd reasonably well - maybe you've got it
installed and you're using it. Please tell me whether my suspicion
above (that systemd builds stuff into the system that is likely to be
superfluous to a user, and possibly forces its use on its users) is well
founded.
Thanks!
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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