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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
  @ 2017-12-11 21:03 99%               ` Alan Mackenzie
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From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2017-12-11 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hello, Neil.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 18:56:15 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:13:30 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> > I've no idea how good systemd is.  It's not been through the normal
> > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have.  It
> > was forced on people.  But being forced to have a binary system log,
> > being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server running, ....,

> This may come as a surprise to some, but some things you hear on
> t'internet are not true...

:-)

> For example, the http server is there to allow access to logs from
> another machine without needing to grant SSH access. It is not enabled by
> default.

OK.  But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
systemd system a broader target for attacks.  Whether a system has an
http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
should be for the system administrator to decide.  I suspect this isn't
the case for systemd's http server.

In any case, I don't want an http server on my system: I have no http to
serve.  I installed sshd as one of the first things on my new system, to
facilitate the transfer of files to it (and, probably, reading logs from
it remotely).

I don't want a binary logging daemon either: that means having to learn
a special purpose utility to be able to read its logs, and, in general,
not being able to read that log from a remote machine.

There are likely other inflexibilities about systemd that I don't want
either.  That's one reason why I'm sticking with openrc.  The politics
of it is another.

> -- 
> Neil Bothwick

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).


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2017-12-09  9:51     [gentoo-user] Is gnome becoming obligatory? Mick
2017-12-09 10:34     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2017-12-09 10:45       ` Mick
2017-12-09 12:04         ` Taiidan
2017-12-09 12:08           ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-10  9:55             ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 10:13               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-11 18:56                 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-11 21:03 99%               ` Alan Mackenzie

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