* Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation
@ 2007-08-31 21:54 99% ` Daniel da Veiga
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From: Daniel da Veiga @ 2007-08-31 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 8/31/07, Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote:
>
> >
> > And to the lies:
> >
> > Lie:
> > because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel
> > created by
> > genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past,
> > the
> > change is great that it sucks again in the future. Plus it doesn't really
> > make things easier, does it?
> >
> >
> > Thats a LIE, genkernel DOES not have ANY inteligence to create .config
> > for kernels, why is he spreading FUD about it creating "f* up" kernels.
>
> exactly, genkernel has no intelligence. So there is no reason to use it.
>
> >
> > Lie 2: It doesn't make things easier.
> >
> > It does make things easier, again he is confusing automagic .config
> > creation with what genkernel can help with. The tool automate the task
> > involved in compiling kernels and/or maintaining multiple
> > configurations. And the Vol fellow really should start using genkernel
> > as his comment clearly demonstrate he does not take appropriate caution
> > to ensure that the kernel source is in a sane state between compiles.
>
> and how is make oldconfig && make all modules_install install harder to do
> than anything genkernel does?
It doesn't rename to the version you're using, it doesn't keep
different configs for different versions, doesn't mount /boot
automatically, it doesn't create a initrd automatically (yeah, you may
not use, but lots of us do), specially with gensplash on it, also the
config and way genkernel boots is good for testing machines that keep
exchanging hardware a lot, it also is much safer than reading (and not
understanding) make help.
But again, its all a question of TASTE. Your taste may be different
and so you'll probably (as you do in most mails) put your own personal
thoughts ignoring that maybe someone thinks different. But that does
not give you the right to diss the tool because you don't like it,
devs put effort to make user's life easier with tools like genkernel,
and the ones who use the tool like it, as some that would try it would
like too, accept that.
>
> oh, it isn't? genkernel is just another step that can go wrong.
> --
Can't you just post your opinion, without bragging about how your
choices are better than ours?
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Daniel da Veiga
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