* Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
@ 2013-07-31 19:09 99% ` Canek Peláez Valdés
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From: Canek Peláez Valdés @ 2013-07-31 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Stroller
<stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 31 July 2013, at 19:09, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Stroller
>> <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
>>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
>>>> in ways they really should be keeping private.
>>>
>>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
>>
>> If you use systemd, all the files installed in /etc/init.d (except
>> functions.sh) don't actually do nothing.
>
> Right, which is a bit freakin' odd, because on most every previous distro and other *nix system, that's where the system administrator goes to start and stop services.
>
> If they're not used, in this case, I don't think they should be installed.
>
> /etc/init.d is wholly different from /usr/share/package-name/examples
>
> There are many other directories on the system where it's no problem to have some idle, unused, "wasted" files, but /etc/init.d has long been an important directory.
That was one of the reasons I started the gentoo-systemd-only overlay;
if you used systemd, and tried to run "/etc/init.d/whatever start",
the results would vary from "annoying" to "catastrophic".
Nowadays you get the following warning:
* You are attempting to run an openrc service on a
* system which openrc did not boot.
* You may be inside a chroot or you may have used
* another initialization system to boot this system.
* In this situation, you will get unpredictable results!
* If you really want to do this, issue the following command:
* touch /run/openrc/softlevel
So it's pretty harmless. I believe the same applies for the files in
/etc/init.d (or /usr/lib/systemd/system) that for the files in
/etc/cron.daily, or /etc/bash_completion.d.
They should be installed unconditionally. If you don't like it,
INSTALL_MASK'd them.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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