* Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login
@ 2021-06-26 10:50 99% ` antlists
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From: antlists @ 2021-06-26 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw
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On 26/06/2021 10:28, Michael wrote:
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 08:19:24 BST Wols Lists wrote:
>> On 26/06/21 00:51, Michael wrote:
>
>>> Given your error, you appear to not have installed the requisite packages
>>> for the Plasma/KDE. It should have been installed as a dependency of
>>> plasma-workspace:
>>
>> Ah. Another piece of missing information ... I'll try that. I would have
>> thought that would have been pulled in seeing as I've got wayland and qt
>> use flags etc
>>
>>> $ qfile startplasma-wayland
>>> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland
>
> I am not clear on your particular use case(s). Plasma desktop is usually
> installed by setting the appropriate make.profile:
I just want a working systemd/wayland desktop system. So basically, a
full-weight normal desktop.
>
> $ eselect profile list
> Available profile symlink targets:
> [1] default/linux/amd64/17.1 (stable)
> [2] default/linux/amd64/17.1/selinux (stable)
> [3] default/linux/amd64/17.1/hardened (stable)
> [4] default/linux/amd64/17.1/hardened/selinux (stable)
> [5] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable)
> [6] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome (stable)
> [7] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd (stable)
> [8] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma (stable) *
> [9] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd (stable)
I've got this one selected, /desktop/plasma/systemd
> [10] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/systemd (stable)
> [11] default/linux/amd64/17.1/developer (stable)
> [12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib (stable)
> [13] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened (stable)
> [14] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened/selinux (stable)
> [15] default/linux/amd64/17.1/systemd (stable)
> [16] default/linux/amd64/17.0 (dev)
> [17] default/linux/amd64/17.0/selinux (dev)
> [18] default/linux/amd64/17.0/hardened (dev)
> [19] default/linux/amd64/17.0/hardened/selinux (dev)
> [20] default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop (dev)
> [21] default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/gnome (dev)
> [22] default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/gnome/systemd (dev)
> [23] default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma (dev)
> [24] default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd (dev)
> [25] default/linux/amd64/17.0/developer (dev)
> [26] default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib (dev)
> [27] default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib/hardened (dev)
> [28] default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib/hardened/selinux (dev)
> [29] default/linux/amd64/17.0/systemd (dev)
> [30] default/linux/amd64/17.0/x32 (dev)
> [31] default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl (exp)
> [32] default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl/hardened (exp)
> [33] default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl/hardened/selinux (exp)
> [34] default/linux/amd64/17.0/uclibc (exp)
> [35] default/linux/amd64/17.0/uclibc/hardened (exp)
>
> If you are looking for some minimalist desktop, a Plasma DE plus KDE
> applications with hundred of dependencies is probably not what you want.
> Also, I think Plasma DE and most DMs will pull in X11, because: a) they work
> both with X11 and wayland; b) many X11 applications can only run in X using
> XWayland. XWayland is an X Server running as a Wayland client to enable
> displaying native X11 client applications within a Wayland compositor
> environment. I haven't looked into it at any depth to see if you can strip a
> heavy DE like Plasma from all xserver dependencies - I'd guess you can't.
>
Not after a minimalist system, and if it pulls in X that's fine.
(Actually, I've installed X, and at the moment it blows up on me, but if
I can get Wayland working, I don't see the point in debugging it until I
need to ...)
>
>>> If you have Gnome already installed then you can use the stanza for gnome-
>>> session instead.
>>
>> My use flags also contain -gtk -gnome ... gnome at least is on my list
>> of pet hates ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Wol
>
> OK, select the Plasma profile, then have a quick look at:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE
>
> You'll need to disable some USE flags of plasma-meta to avoid dragging in
> things you may not need/require, like 'display-manager', 'sddm',
> 'accessibility', etc. Eventually, after you update @world, add any kde-apps
> *-meta packages you need.
>
> However, if you intend to use wayland for the most minimalist of purposes,
> then you may want to consider something like Wayfire, instead of Plasma.
>
I'll need something like sddm, because I'll have multiple users logged
in simultaneously. I was trying to use qtgreet as per the "Wayland
Landscape" page, but the package doesn't seem to exist ... I'd rather
avoid gnome/gdm and gtkgreet, lightdm and sddm look like X11 (and I said
I didn't want to debug it :-), and tuigreet looks like it might not
support multi-user/multi-head.
Still, if I can get plasma running, I can work from there ...
Cheers,
Wol
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