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From: "Urs Schütz" <u.schutz@bluewin.ch>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it?
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:58:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f9da6a0-f2ae-8fba-772c-0d2dd2b5b7f9@bluewin.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAD4mYiRKMFxuCGy24CG1ov5TB9GCK0EDP06Ej+exPeiZvObkA@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/16/17 05:56, R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:44 AM,  <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>> On 07/16 03:12, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 2:11 AM,  <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>> On 07/16 01:59, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:47 AM,  <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that drives my insane:
>>>>>> While searching items for my DIY Nixie clock on aliexpress I get
>>>>>> one certain popup with each new access to aliexpress asking
>>>>>> me, whether I am new to aliexpress and offers me a coupon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no othe chance than clicking on this [beep] pop up
>>>>>> to be able to see the page contents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched the web for according informations how to block
>>>>>> this [beep] popup, but I only get informations how to
>>>>>> remove a certain kind of adware virus from Mac and Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this virus pops up an advertisement of constantly changing
>>>>>> goods and is page filling I am sure I am not suffering from this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone out there has solved this problem without disabling
>>>>>> the possibility to /buy/ something on aliexpress PLEASE HELP
>>>>>> ME. I AM NEAR INSANITY! ;) :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot in advance for any life saver!
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Meino
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be able to block the element on the page using uBlock
>>>>> Origin, but unfortunately that type of ad is very hard to remove. If
>>>>> you have to interact with it is harder to select using uBlock's
>>>>> interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also use Greasemonkey to block more invasive ads, but I never
>>>>> had much luck with that. It's designed to do more than filter
>>>>> background content.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel like I need to ask whether or not you've done something like
>>>>> disable cookies. I'd not suggest doing that, at most delete all of
>>>>> them when you close your browser session. It's impossible to use most
>>>>> pages without having cookies enabled (this makes automating things
>>>>> with web libraries infuriating).
>>>>>
>>>>> R0b0t1.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi R0b0t1,
>>>>
>>>> For "normal browsing" I created a profile for firefox which is privacy
>>>> enhanced -- blocking all sorts of things. This profile works half
>>>> with the sites I normally visit.
>>>> Aliexpress get screwed up when visited using this profile.
>>>>
>>>> So I created a second profile, which I use for Aliexpress only. This
>>>> one has only some privacy related things enabled. Aliexpress works --
>>>> including poping up this [beep] "Are you new to Aliexpress?" popup.
>>>> Cookies are enabled with this profile.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does it do this on every page load or just the first time you interact with it?
>>>
>>
>> I did the following:
>> *** Surf to www.aliexpress.com (no popup and no way to search despite
>> the fact that a search bar is shown.)
>> *** Click on any product -- product will be displayed and popup pops
>> up (hence the name), click the popup to remove it. Search bar now works.
>> *** Click "reload tab"...the whole [beep] starts from the beginning.
>>
> 
> I've managed to block something similar using uBlock Origin, but it
> was really hard to select it with the GUI picker that creates blocking
> rules for you.
> 
> The technical term for what the website is using is called a popover
> and I remember people talking about blocking them with uBlock Origin
> because they are hard to block, but I can't find anything relevant to
> this discussion in Google.
> 
>>>> As soon as I login into Aliexpress the popup disappears -- now
>>>> Aliexpress is satisfied, because tracking my searches is now
>>>> personalized.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you can't find a way to target the overlay with uBlock Origin you
>>> might try looking at https://greasyfork.org/en and using Greasemonkey.
>>> Unfortunately all the premade scripts I could find were simple things
>>> like pricing changes.
>>
>> Why Greasemonkey is especially use ful in this case?
>> (this is curiosity -- and NO expression of doubt, R0b0t1! :)
>>
> 
> Greasemonkey injects JavaScript onto your webpages based on filter
> criteria, so you can effectively do anything your browser can do when
> displaying the webpage. Some of the more impressive feats are
> reengineered webpages that are better than the original service, most
> of them are mundane and only alter a few values on a webpage.
> 
> You can also use it for laser-guided adblocking if you need to.
> Unfortunately Greasemonkey requires quite a bit of knowledge about
> itself, web development, and the page you are trying to modify, so I
> can't be of much help apropos.
> 
>>>
>>>> Its the same reason for why buying via Aliexpress App on a
>>>> smartphone/tablet is cheaper than using a PC.
>>>> I am using XPrivacy on my Android tablet which shows, blocks
>>>> or allows ANY access to permissions like "Get your location"
>>>> et cetera -- I instantly deleted that App after I saw, what this
>>>> App wants to know.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's sad to see another website doing this. There's a few that make it
>>> all but impossible to use the service without logging in or supplying
>>> information one way or another. If the creator of the website doesn't
>>> want you to use it, I'm not sure there's a lot that can ultimately be
>>> done about it.
>>>
>>> In a similar vein, my phone now displays advertising. The state of
>>> computing has me despondent.
>>
>>    For your phone: Root it, install XPosed/XPosedInstaller, install XPrivacy, install
>>    Bootmanager, install PreventRunning, install AFWall -- and your
>>    phone is yours again. Buying XPrivacy is worth every cent (it is
>>    cheap!) and it can be bought directly by its developer Marcel
>>    Bokhorst via Mony transfer -- no need to feed Google again!
>>
>>    For more drop me a PM.
>>
> 
> I might take you up on your offer but the main issue is my phone isn't
> a flagship device so I can't expect a ROM to exist for it. I suppose
> I'll check.
> 
> R0b0t1.
> 

AdblockPlus, "Select an element to hide". Selecting the red window with 
the mouse will add something like this to the blocking list:
aliexpress.com##.ui-window.ui-window-normal.ui-window-transition.ui-newuser-layer-dialog
and
aliexpress.com##.newuser-container

Urs



  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-16 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-16  6:47 [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it? tuxic
2017-07-16  6:59 ` R0b0t1
2017-07-16  7:11   ` tuxic
2017-07-16  8:12     ` R0b0t1
2017-07-16  8:44       ` tuxic
2017-07-16  8:56         ` R0b0t1
2017-07-16 16:58           ` Urs Schütz [this message]
2017-07-16 17:08             ` tuxic
2017-07-16 17:45               ` Urs Schütz
2017-07-16 18:00                 ` tuxic
2017-07-16 18:05                   ` Dale
2017-07-16 18:19                     ` tuxic
2017-07-16 18:08                   ` tuxic
2017-07-16 18:35                     ` Mick
2017-07-16 18:40                       ` tuxic
2017-07-16 18:59                         ` Mick
2017-07-16 19:04                           ` tuxic
2017-07-16 20:15         ` Neil Bothwick
2017-07-16  7:51 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-07-16  7:59   ` tuxic
2017-07-16  8:18     ` Peter Humphrey
2017-07-16  8:48       ` tuxic
2017-07-16  8:59         ` tuxic
2017-07-16 14:50           ` Peter Humphrey

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