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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------47099867B51BDFBCB57ACC44" X-Archives-Salt: 3f0a0fe2-0a08-4a3c-9b93-0e8db8977528 X-Archives-Hash: 7aa2860f707cee9734167bdc0e0e761d This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------47099867B51BDFBCB57ACC44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale > wrote: > > > It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be > > easily built by us nerdy types and not be huge.  Things are a bit > > interesting right now for hardware and such.  Some parts are expensive, > > hard to find or just plain unavailable.  Still, I suspect that this will > > get better later on.  The good thing, people are working on this. There > > is interest in having a option. > > > > I know I've said this before but yes, people are working on it and it > is buildable by people like us. > > https://www.truenas.com/truenas-core/ > > Any old x64 PC and a few disks will get you up and running. It's  > open source as much as BSD is open source. It's not Linux > so there was a little learning to do but it wasn't bad. > > Mine has a small SSD as the boot drive and then RAID1 pairs > running OpenZFS for storage. It's inexpensive if you have an  > old computer to build on. > > Good luck, > Mark I got a old rig I can use.  I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or FreeNAS on a USB stick.  I can't recall which one I put on it tho.  I downloaded all three.  lol  If you know that one is better than the others, feel free to share.  Also, I'd like to keep using LVM if I can.  If nothing else, I already got the data on the drives and won't have to reformat and copy again.  It took almost 100 hours to copy to the new 16TB drive.  Using LVM would make that easier, and faster. I'll have to work with what I got for now but I really like the Raspberry option for its size and good options to upgrade later.  I'll just make do with something else until that option is doable.  Maybe it won't be to long.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------47099867B51BDFBCB57ACC44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be
> easily built by us nerdy types and not be huge.  Things are a bit
> interesting right now for hardware and such.  Some parts are expensive,
> hard to find or just plain unavailable.  Still, I suspect that this will
> get better later on.  The good thing, people are working on this. There
> is interest in having a option.
>

I know I've said this before but yes, people are working on it and it
is buildable by people like us.


Any old x64 PC and a few disks will get you up and running. It's 
open source as much as BSD is open source. It's not Linux
so there was a little learning to do but it wasn't bad.

Mine has a small SSD as the boot drive and then RAID1 pairs
running OpenZFS for storage. It's inexpensive if you have an 
old computer to build on.

Good luck,
Mark

I got a old rig I can use.  I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or FreeNAS on a USB stick.  I can't recall which one I put on it tho.  I downloaded all three.  lol  If you know that one is better than the others, feel free to share.  Also, I'd like to keep using LVM if I can.  If nothing else, I already got the data on the drives and won't have to reformat and copy again.  It took almost 100 hours to copy to the new 16TB drive.  Using LVM would make that easier, and faster.

I'll have to work with what I got for now but I really like the Raspberry option for its size and good options to upgrade later.  I'll just make do with something else until that option is doable.  Maybe it won't be to long. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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