Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

[FredL <raptor@drakonix.fr>]

Le 2013/07/22 22:44, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On 22/07/2013 23:35, FredL wrote:
> 
> Do you perhaps have NetworkManager or wicd installed?
> 
> 
> no, none of them, it is a very basic install, with only the minimum
> packages installed . I have checked at the init script and find a line
> in the depend section saying :
> 
> after lo lo0 dbus
> 
> but dbus is not yet installed, can this be the cause of my problem?
> 
> so I have just installed dbus and add it to default runlevel and my
> net.* script are loaded correctly setting my static config, so every
> thing is fine now.
> 
> But why do we need dbus in a very minimalistic system? I was thinking
> that it would be helpful in a full desktop environnement for
> automagically mounting device and things like that...
> 
> 
> 
> dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
> misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
> 
> dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
> 
> Why do you need or want a message bus?
> 
> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you
> already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon,
> can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the
> IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't
> happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them.
> 
> That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time
> doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness.

ok, thanks for your explanation and your help, my last fresh install was 
a very long time ago and I can't remember having to install dbus before 
having my net script working, but a lot of things have changed since 
this last install and that is probably what I miss in this fresh install 
process