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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <0951308c-02e4-b5f1-24a4-cc83fd6d90d6@ya.ru> <2626282.TuXHzJEg2m@note> <c23b3e74-6120-1cc9-b282-4abad93a3ba6@ya.ru> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca93a20-ef3d-e9d3-b805-8f8ca9343ac0@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:37:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <c23b3e74-6120-1cc9-b282-4abad93a3ba6@ya.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 4050fbcf-a6cd-42ba-9898-bb498cf0bee9 X-Archives-Hash: e328e17ee486f199c32dc0897e7a3fb0 On 08/12/2017 15:22, Alexey Eschenko wrote: > It can be the issue. But older version (2.0.4) which is currently > installed works fine and has no conflicts. > > It's quite strange. > > > On 12/08/2017 03:39 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: >>> Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed? >> Most of the time, the reason to make packages to block each other is >> collisions (if they they contain files (like binaries or libraries) >> with same >> install paths). >> >> Although, I can't guarantee that it was the case here. >> >> I've noticed that Gnome Team makes some decisions, that doesn't looks >> logical >> for a few times already. >> > It's not at all strange; it's quite ordinary actually. Keeping in mind that I do not use these packages, or gnome, look at the available blueman packages: # eix net-wireless/blueman * net-wireless/blueman Available versions: (~)2.0.3 (~)2.0.4 [M](~)2.1_alpha1 **9999 {appindicator network nls policykit pulseaudio thunar PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6"} 2.1 is still in an alpha state, and it is p.masked: /var/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (26 Jan 2017) # Pre-release, masked for testing. Major changes since 2.0.4, # including dropped support for BlueZ 4. It is not unreasonable to conclude that blueman-2.1 intends to add features that conflict with gnome-bluetooth and they can't co-exist. As Vadim said, file collisions are often the underlying cause. You unmasked an alpha package, clearly tagged as "for testing". Nothing add abut the result you got at all. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com