From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F110C1396D0 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D83ADE0E33; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x243.google.com (mail-yw0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83A31E0D9E for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x243.google.com with SMTP id q80so777316ywg.0 for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:21:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uXi9qazQgWC5jYbsZcq2lpRLsNbuLNumtoIA9tBriJY=; b=qKQBV+mMse9M2k3tUrgdsEXNfIoJhKsqFTfhLgo9z0BrSMkhiF3Ix6VWIIOVOe74s7 olwLGd2LJ//yYgUlYPZnNCn4B+6QrXJGaGo414ZUO3T5RTv/gRRryGlY3UjD5g2LF2on AW74Fai+pqMXfzFlxcItoB3pUxJrF2tnG7FzvL/AUAG5Jl7PSa6W3pLHhzZKbmuf5L0x WtZlxozD/YFq7gzqE1yqW+cqVy5ysgoHxX+JjOey5jJ1d3+fnpQiJtXRPOaXFJznROG4 lMzBVA7BSvOTby3GlvHiDUozomHMa9FCWMnrpk2+bcLn7Kq+TdzeYeQXYwraj5YIsQj0 3Neg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uXi9qazQgWC5jYbsZcq2lpRLsNbuLNumtoIA9tBriJY=; b=Kh1YQ+/oJqAohvMNeedT3q379lJh3B3iJkbpnA3K13tDJ6Qnf/3heXjgrlYK3HO9hl AS2eS0qxAGkBhIiT1akc91av+gHZOvOQ+L625OYkLLtHi5EhtcqP1VlcDuqcGS+HIjJd Q1AKN0K5MYAoc3had9D76Iny8FpFXi96LVt3oOt4NLEDT5i+qKuvLGq2aalZq+RDZKrx pRbklTtjpzaFCnih/T7gC4H37ax7papVHXGaY6BQdtVd6/6G9TYWfxQRHQ/KpLGgLi4Q l9zcWZldNpN+9lx45EOQMM+J6yuRpv/kGGuTv4bAy579tK+X9c7QZ/sonQ19g3lPSs6H OsVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgYcfpsjXJ17jefOSceqVaMAcVNG5iccqrSYHxNt7GRzUhExHqF WtqCI74x+kvtrw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb4FccmnX5Lb6WHRc7582QVSQas59jiy1PrzJNnHuAEpodl1e2p7H442aP0rIKq4sNNXn099oQ== X-Received: by 10.13.217.72 with SMTP id b69mr1208177ywe.443.1504837311888; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-74-240-55-63.jan.bellsouth.net. [74.240.55.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm298230ywf.92.2017.09.07.19.21.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What do you think about Firefox 57? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <87a8264rvb.fsf@gmail.com> <874lse3ry0.fsf@gmail.com> From: Dale Message-ID: <9b36ec89-2f53-283f-005a-5db7d28ad2c4@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 21:21:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874lse3ry0.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: d1d96f76-c286-4a9e-9081-c4e385a0bc0a X-Archives-Hash: 77d6007596e842eb7707ca2389bb2e9c Danny YUE wrote: > On 2017-09-08 00:48, Adam Carter wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Danny YUE wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have been using FoxyProxy in Firefox for a really long time, until >>> today I found its new version really sucks. >>> >>> Then I read the comment from author who declared that the old version >>> can *only* be used before (roughly) end of 2017 before Firefox 57 and in >>> new version some features must perish. >>> >> I am assuming that most actively developed addons will be updated before 57 >> drops, so the transition wont be too painful. Is the issue you're having >> with FoxyProxy related to it relying on features that are no longer >> available under the new framework? > Yes. The FoxyProxy author declared that some features are no long > available under the new framework. > I am really depressed about it because I just use that plugin every time > I use Firefox. > > >> This update will break my favorite extension, Vimperator. I am already >> looking at replacements for Firefox due to this. So far I have found >> qutebrowser which isn't really as featureful. >> >> R0b0t1. > I am using Keysnail, no idea whether or not it will be deprecated. > > If the features I want are blocked by the new framework, I'm afraid I > would lock the version (fortunately it's Gentoo) for a long time, until > I find replacement for plugins, or even Firefox... > > Danny > > It's been mentioned before in other threads recently, have you looked at Palemoon?  I have it installed here from a overlay.  I haven't checked on it recently but if this new plugin thing with Firefox leaves some of my plugins unusable, I may be looking at some other options myself.  I might add, Seamonkey is stepping on a nerve or two of mine as well.  I've been wondering about this plugin thing myself since I heard about it a few weeks ago.  Sort of glad to see a discussion about it.  Hoping to find out what others think this is going to end up looking like.  Dale :-)  :-)