From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FIyO6-0006oR-60 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:31:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2E1Ug0J015619; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:30:42 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.206]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2E1O2fx001054 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:24:02 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so989439nfc for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:24:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jd2yON1a5GE7POr0yvGDEjyPelrJVUehPqrP2T2vW3N1PVXvwaLGpj1Vuq9/jz5IljPYJQsHhZ9KNczJi0esQ4slmfZOPg+5KISOqfQapAknqFdDdz095jMHjD1YEugDOJtzLIkzpxJpEKPgJ9uMqou2MFlxrXjELdnx8EwW70w= Received: by 10.49.37.17 with SMTP id p17mr2057200nfj; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.10 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:24:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9b1675090603131724h2678de0dl37a9e95576001c11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:24:02 -0700 From: "Trenton Adams" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs In-Reply-To: <200603131533.31158.bss03@volumehost.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9b1675090603131254x16e315e4uee810f8c81f08434@mail.gmail.com> <200603131533.31158.bss03@volumehost.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k2E1O2fx001054 X-Archives-Salt: 4e21a6fa-0512-46f5-ab01-15cc978582cc X-Archives-Hash: 2307e257714c693ad55a4de427009a31 Thanks everyone. Just so you'll all have an extra tidbit of knowledge. A co-worker mentioned one other thing that could be a problem, that no one else mentioned. If you have not yet upgraded GCC on an old version, then use an up-to-date installation with a newer GCC, you will have binary incompatibilities with your package build system. On 3/13/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 13 March 2006 14:54, "Trenton Adams" > wrote about '[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs': > > Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As > > I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as > > long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after > > the system has been installed? > > Not very. Some packages are masked by the profile so changing profiles > will change what packages are installed, sometimes. > > I'm assuming you are using default-linux/x86/2005.1 and thinking about > moving to default-linux/x86/2006.0 (there are equivalents for most archs, > and probably some of the sub-profiles). If that's the case we see that: > $ diff -u 2005.1 2006.0 > diff -u 2005.1/make.defaults 2006.0/make.defaults > --- 2005.1/make.defaults 2005-11-16 11:06:03.000000000 -0600 > +++ 2006.0/make.defaults 2006-01-31 17:06:15.000000000 -0600 > @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ > -# > $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/make.defaults,v > 1.5 2005/11/16 17:00:36 wolf31o2 Exp $ > +# > $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults,v > 1.6 2006/01/31 23:03:05 wolf31o2 Exp $ > > -USE="alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran > foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ > libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt > quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms > xv" > +# This is currently commented so that the stage1 tarball can also be used > to > +# build no-nptl systems. > +#STAGE1_USE="nptl" > + > +USE="alsa apache2 apm arts avi cups eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb gdbm > gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod > motif mp3 mpeg nptl ogg opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell > truetype udev vorbis X xml xmms xv" > diff -u 2005.1/packages 2006.0/packages > --- 2005.1/packages 2005-07-07 16:09:07.000000000 -0500 > +++ 2006.0/packages 2006-01-18 15:19:57.000000000 -0600 > @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ > -# > $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages,v > 1.2 2005/07/07 20:11:37 wolf31o2 Exp $ > +# > $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/packages,v > 1.1 2006/01/18 21:19:57 wolf31o2 Exp $ > Only in 2005.1: vserver > > (I stripped out the context lines, but things aren't wrapping correctly, so > that my be a little hard to read.) > > ANYWAY, looks to me like vserver support is no longer available as a > sub-profile, probably replaced or superceeded by default-linux/x86/vserver > and that the default USE flags changed by adding apache2, esd, nptl, udev, > and xml and removing bitmap-fonts, fortran, oggvorbis, truetype-fonts, > type1-fonts, and xml2. > > nptl and udev you were probably already using, esd maybe not and it'll > probably bring in a dependency or two. I betting xml2 has just gone away, > in favor of xml. oggvorbis should have also gone away since there's no > special libraries necessary to handle vorbis data in the ogg wrapper other > that the ability to handle vorbis data (which can be in another wrapper, > like matroska) and open ogg wrappers (which can contain other data like > speex or theora). Changing the fortran flag will probably make your gcc > recompile, unless you already had it turned off; I don't actually compile > fortran, do you? I'm not really sure what's up with the fonts options, > but it does make sense to not default to ALL types of fonts. The biggest > change is the apache2 flag, so you may want to disable that is you do go > with 2006.0 > > > I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but > > I want package compatibility with my server. > > Do you mean you want to be able to use binary packages from the server, so > that you don't have to compile on the notebook? If so, you probably want > to keep both make.conf, make.profile, and /etc/portage identical. (If USE > flags are different, a binary package will not be used.) > > -- > "If there's one thing we've established over the years, > it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest > clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." > -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list