[gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

In addition to other troubles, my X server won't start under any
circumstances that I've been able to construct.

My actual video is on the motherboard and is an ATI Rage XL chipset (I
think that uses the drvier r128?)

My current worry is that "startx" fails quickly, reporting no screens
found.  My guess is the missing extensions reported in the following
typescript.  The files named there are broken symbolic links to
/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/<whatever> but that directory is
empty.

If I change the driver to "fbdev", it fails and reports that /dev/fb0
does not exist.  I don't understand frambuffers, so I don't know what
to make of that.  It sure seems this system is missing a bunch of
pieces.

Here's a typescript below, the /var/log/Xlog.0.log is at
http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/9SF:

treat X11 # startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.7070


X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor i686
Current Operating System: Linux treat 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor #6 SMP
PREEMPT Sat May 23 19:17:22 PDT 2009 i686
Build Date: 25 May 2009  08:41:29AM

	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jul  8 09:46:04 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7)
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(EE) Failed to load module "dri" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
treat X11 # exit

Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:46:21 AM PDT

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[James Ausmus]

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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:

> In addition to other troubles, my X server won't start under any
> circumstances that I've been able to construct.
>
> My actual video is on the motherboard and is an ATI Rage XL chipset (I
> think that uses the drvier r128?)
>
> My current worry is that "startx" fails quickly, reporting no screens
> found.  My guess is the missing extensions reported in the following
> typescript.  The files named there are broken symbolic links to
> /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/<whatever> but that directory is
> empty.



Please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, as well as the output of "eselect
opengl list"

-James



>
>
> If I change the driver to "fbdev", it fails and reports that /dev/fb0
> does not exist.  I don't understand frambuffers, so I don't know what
> to make of that.  It sure seems this system is missing a bunch of
> pieces.
>
> Here's a typescript below, the /var/log/Xlog.0.log is at
> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/9SF:
>
> treat X11 # startx
> xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.7070
>
>
> X.Org X Server 1.5.3
> Release Date: 5 November 2008
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor i686
> Current Operating System: Linux treat 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor #6 SMP
> PREEMPT Sat May 23 19:17:22 PDT 2009 i686
> Build Date: 25 May 2009  08:41:29AM
>
>        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>        to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jul  8 09:46:04 2009
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
> (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7)
> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
> (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (loader failed, 7)
> (EE) No devices detected.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> giving up.
> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> treat X11 # exit
>
> Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:46:21 AM PDT
>
> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 19:15:29 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory

This is usually a symlink to the drivers opengl libs. Is the driver for your 
graphic adapter installed? If yes, did you "eselect opengl ..."?

HTH...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

Synopsis: great progress made -- further progress will be in a
different thread related to keyboard and mouse

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dirk Heinrichs<dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 19:15:29 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
>
>> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: cannot open
>> shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> This is usually a symlink to the drivers opengl libs. Is the driver for your
> graphic adapter installed? If yes, did you "eselect opengl ..."?
>
> HTH...
>
>        Dirk
>

Thanks very much.  I've got a (non-functional) kdm on-screen now when I boot up.

My ATI Rage XL (onboard) seems to require xf86-video-ati as well as
xf86-video-mach64, and the upgrade to xorg-1.5 seems to have obscured
that fact.   I found it out by searching for all references to Rage
XL, and trying everything suggested by what I found there.
Eventually, I found a combination that resulted in a promising
Xorg.log.0 and a screen with an outline "x" icon, albeit not much more
than that.

Dirk's message was the next step: while "eselect opengl list" seemed
to show that I had selected xorg-x11, it wasn't until I re-did that
selection that I started to see anything recogizable after bootup.

End result: I get a recognizable kde login screen.
Problems: neither keyboard nor mouse is functional in X.  Coming soon
to a thread near here.

Thanks all
-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
> End result: I get a recognizable kde login screen.
> Problems: neither keyboard nor mouse is functional in X.  Coming soon
> to a thread near here.
>

In that case the gentoo docs here:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml

annd this mailing list's archive should be helpful, as there have been
probably dozens of threads about that same problem. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> End result: I get a recognizable kde login screen.
>> Problems: neither keyboard nor mouse is functional in X.  Coming soon
>> to a thread near here.
>>
>>     
>
> In that case the gentoo docs here:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml
>
> annd this mailing list's archive should be helpful, as there have been
> probably dozens of threads about that same problem. :)
>
>
>   

And one that still can't get it to work after following that guide. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:36:02 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:

> > Problems: neither keyboard nor mouse is functional in X.  Coming soon
> > to a thread near here.
> >  
> 
> In that case the gentoo docs here:
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml
> 
> annd this mailing list's archive should be helpful, as there have been
> probably dozens of threads about that same problem. :)
> 

The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
drivers.

emerge --oneshot $(qlist -I x11-drivers)

should fix it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Most software is about as user-friendly as a cornered rat!

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg won't start

[James]

Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:


> > annd this mailing list's archive should be helpful, as there have been
> > probably dozens of threads about that same problem. :)

> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
> drivers.

> emerge --oneshot $(qlist -I x11-drivers)


Yep,
seem my recent 
saga.


'emerge -e1 world' did the trick
after dropping back to 1.5.3-r7 on xorg-server
and 8.593 on ati-drivers....

see bug 276953 as gcc-4.3.2 killed outgoing mail
on seamonkey.....too several days to recover.....


ymmv,

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Keith Dart]

On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:03:20 +0100
Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
> drivers.

Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
in /etc/make.conf:

PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"

So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of a
ebuild set. 



-- 

-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Keith Dart<keith@dartworks.biz> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:03:20 +0100
> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
>> drivers.
>
> Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
> in /etc/make.conf:
>
> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
>
> So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of a
> ebuild set.

I've been running with this for years:

PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="info, warn, error, log"
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save mail"
FEATURES="buildpkg parallel-fetch"

And I had been thinking that the "buildpkg" was going to make
reversion a lot easier, except that I've never actually installed one
of these puppies.  Mind, I only tried once.  I've got about 4 GB of
packages at the moment.  :o)

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dale]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Keith Dart<keith@dartworks.biz> wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:03:20 +0100
>> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
>>> drivers.
>>>       
>> Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
>> in /etc/make.conf:
>>
>> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
>>
>> So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of a
>> ebuild set.
>>     
>
> I've been running with this for years:
>
> PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="info, warn, error, log"
> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save mail"
> FEATURES="buildpkg parallel-fetch"
>
> And I had been thinking that the "buildpkg" was going to make
> reversion a lot easier, except that I've never actually installed one
> of these puppies.  Mind, I only tried once.  I've got about 4 GB of
> packages at the moment.  :o)
>
> ++ kevin
>
>   

You do know about eclean right?  At least that can clean out some old cruft.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Keith Dart<keith@dartworks.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:03:20 +0100
>>> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
>>>> drivers.
>>>>
>>> Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
>>> in /etc/make.conf:
>>>
>>> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
>>>
>>> So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of a
>>> ebuild set.
>>>
>>
>> I've been running with this for years:
>>
>> PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="info, warn, error, log"
>> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save mail"
>> FEATURES="buildpkg parallel-fetch"
>>
>> And I had been thinking that the "buildpkg" was going to make
>> reversion a lot easier, except that I've never actually installed one
>> of these puppies.  Mind, I only tried once.  I've got about 4 GB of
>> packages at the moment.  :o)
>>
>> ++ kevin
>>
>>
>
> You do know about eclean right?  At least that can clean out some old cruft.

I assumed there was some such thing, but I don't want it.  I
miscounted anyway, and included only the partition set aside for old
cruft, where I copy the oldest packages there every year or so -- it
seems I like having them even if I don't know why.  Counting the new
cruft, it's more like 7 GB.  With drive prices being what they are,
it's no big deal.

Since about a year ago, I've been able to afford mirrored 500GB SATA
drives on this machine, with a separage eSATA for backups, and I have
an eSATA at work for offsite backup too.  The external ones fit in my
backpack nicely for the "sneakernet" part of my backup plan.  Having
suffered and paid for hard drive crashes in the past, I really really
love this.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dale]

Keith Dart wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:03:20 +0100
> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   
>> The elog message from the xorg-server emerge also warns about updating
>> drivers.
>>     
>
> Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
> in /etc/make.conf:
>
> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
>
> So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of a
> ebuild set. 
>
>
>
>   

Where are those stored?  /var by chance?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:21:47 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
> > in /etc/make.conf:
> >
> > PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
> >
> > So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of
> > a ebuild set. 

> Where are those stored?  /var by chance?

$PORT_LOGDIR/elog, wherever you've set that to. I think it defaults
to /var/log/portage/elog if you haven't set $PORT_LOGDIR.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

And all the Borg left was this darn Macintosh...

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:21:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>>> Users should probably make sure there is at least the following
>>> in /etc/make.conf:
>>>
>>> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save_summary"
>>>
>>> So you get a permanent record and a change to view them at the end of
>>> a ebuild set. 
>>>       
>
>   
>> Where are those stored?  /var by chance?
>>     
>
> $PORT_LOGDIR/elog, wherever you've set that to. I think it defaults
> to /var/log/portage/elog if you haven't set $PORT_LOGDIR.
>
>
>   

Well, it looks like I may get to test drive that option.  I just tried
the new "improved" xorg and the evdev thing, it didn't work.  I reset
everything back to like it was and now my mouse wheel doesn't work. 
Looks like I get to emerge some more stuff until I get this fixed.  New
thread alert.

I'd like to meet whoever came up with this crap.  Just a few minutes
behind my woodshed will do.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Paul Hartman]

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to meet whoever came up with this crap.  Just a few minutes
> behind my woodshed will do.

Hopefully you guys unfortunate enough to have had problems have filed
bugs about it on b.g.o or bugs.freedesktop.org so the devs can have
some chance of fixing it :)

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg won't start

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I'd like to meet whoever came up with this crap.  Just a few minutes
>> behind my woodshed will do.
>>     
>
> Hopefully you guys unfortunate enough to have had problems have filed
> bugs about it on b.g.o or bugs.freedesktop.org so the devs can have
> some chance of fixing it :)
>
>
>   

Well, if I could figure out why it wasn't working, I sure would.  Thing
is, I have no clue why it is not working. 

New thread to get my rig back to working again.

Dale

:-)  :-)