[gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

I'm not getting anywhere with X, and the scripts themselves seem to be
screwed up.
I've re-emerged x11-apps/xinit to no avail, and I'm current with
revdep-rebuild.  I have no idea what else to try.

Here's a transcript; no log is created in /var/log/Xorg.0.log so I
don't think I have any further information:

Script started on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:25 AM PDT
treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
 * Stopping xdm ...
/sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
(No such file or directory)
             [ ok ]
treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm zap
 * Manually resetting xdm to stopped state.
treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm start
 * Setting up xdm ...
start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory (No
such file or directory)
 * ERROR: could not start the Display Manager                             [ ok ]
treat ~ # exit

Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:53 AM PDT


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not getting anywhere with X, and the scripts themselves seem to be
> screwed up.
> I've re-emerged x11-apps/xinit to no avail, and I'm current with
> revdep-rebuild.  I have no idea what else to try.
>
> Here's a transcript; no log is created in /var/log/Xorg.0.log so I
> don't think I have any further information:
>
> Script started on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:25 AM PDT
> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
>  * Stopping xdm ...
> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
> (No such file or directory)
>             [ ok ]
> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm zap
>  * Manually resetting xdm to stopped state.
> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm start
>  * Setting up xdm ...
> start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory (No
> such file or directory)
>  * ERROR: could not start the Display Manager                             [ ok ]
> treat ~ # exit
>
> Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:53 AM PDT
>
>
> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
>
>

So is xdm emerged? Seems strange.

Are you using gnome by chance? You can change the display manager you
choose inside of /etc/conf.d/xdm where I set gdm. emerge gdm and for
me it just works.

Good luck,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Mark Knecht<markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not getting anywhere with X, and the scripts themselves seem to be
>> screwed up.
>> I've re-emerged x11-apps/xinit to no avail, and I'm current with
>> revdep-rebuild.  I have no idea what else to try.
>>
>> Here's a transcript; no log is created in /var/log/Xorg.0.log so I
>> don't think I have any further information:
>>
>> Script started on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:25 AM PDT
>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
>>  * Stopping xdm ...
>> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
>> (No such file or directory)
>>             [ ok ]
>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm zap
>>  * Manually resetting xdm to stopped state.
>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm start
>>  * Setting up xdm ...
>> start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory (No
>> such file or directory)
>>  * ERROR: could not start the Display Manager                             [ ok ]
>> treat ~ # exit
>>
>> Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:53 AM PDT
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
>>
>>
>
> So is xdm emerged? Seems strange.

xdm comes from xinit, which is emerged.


> Are you using gnome by chance? You can change the display manager you
> choose inside of /etc/conf.d/xdm where I set gdm. emerge gdm and for
> me it just works.

Back in May, when this was working, it booted into KDE.  However,
/etc/conf.d/xdm seems to be set to start "xdm", which is loopy.  When
I change it to kde, it's says it's starting kde, but nothing happens
and the log says no devices detected and no screens found.

>
> Good luck,
> Mark


Thanks.

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 19:22:25 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> > So is xdm emerged? Seems strange.
>
> xdm comes from xinit, which is emerged.

No, it comes from xdm, as Mark wrote.

> Back in May, when this was working, it booted into KDE.  However,
> /etc/conf.d/xdm seems to be set to start "xdm", which is loopy.  When
> I change it to kde, it's says it's starting kde, but nothing happens
> and the log says no devices detected and no screens found.

Because kde is not a display manager, that would be kdm.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Mark Knecht<markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not getting anywhere with X, and the scripts themselves seem to be
>>> screwed up.
>>> I've re-emerged x11-apps/xinit to no avail, and I'm current with
>>> revdep-rebuild.  I have no idea what else to try.
>>>
>>> Here's a transcript; no log is created in /var/log/Xorg.0.log so I
>>> don't think I have any further information:
>>>
>>> Script started on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:25 AM PDT
>>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
>>>  * Stopping xdm ...
>>> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
>>> (No such file or directory)
>>>             [ ok ]
>>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm zap
>>>  * Manually resetting xdm to stopped state.
>>> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm start
>>>  * Setting up xdm ...
>>> start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory (No
>>> such file or directory)
>>>  * ERROR: could not start the Display Manager                             [ ok ]
>>> treat ~ # exit
>>>
>>> Script done on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:53 AM PDT
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So is xdm emerged? Seems strange.
>
> xdm comes from xinit, which is emerged.
>
>
>> Are you using gnome by chance? You can change the display manager you
>> choose inside of /etc/conf.d/xdm where I set gdm. emerge gdm and for
>> me it just works.
>
> Back in May, when this was working, it booted into KDE.  However,
> /etc/conf.d/xdm seems to be set to start "xdm", which is loopy.  When
> I change it to kde, it's says it's starting kde, but nothing happens
> and the log says no devices detected and no screens found.

emerge is not careful about xdm.conf so you might have had correct
settings earlier and then a new emerge over wrote something when you
weren't looking.

inside xdm.conf you can choose xdm, kdm or gdm. I choose gdm as I use
Gnome and XFCE.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:09:18 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory

You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

PROSTITUTE: Receiver of swollen goods.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:09:18 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>
>> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
>
> You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?
>

I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.  I see no ebuild
called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.

Note that the path it's complaining about is something in /usr/bin,
and that indeed could be the problem.

>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> PROSTITUTE: Receiver of swollen goods.
>



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:09:18 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>>
>>> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
>>
>> You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?
>>
>
> I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.  I see no ebuild
> called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.
>
> Note that the path it's complaining about is something in /usr/bin,
> and that indeed could be the problem.

Oh, and /etc/conf.d/xdm exists:

kevin@kermod ~ $ cat xdm-090708a
# We always try and start X on a static VT. The various DMs normally default
# to using VT7. If you wish to use the xdm init script, then you should ensure
# that the VT checked is the same VT your DM wants to use. We do this check to
# ensure that you have't accidently configured something to run on the VT
# in your /etc/inittab file so that you don't get a dead keyboard.
CHECKVT=7

# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | kdm-3.5 |
kdm-4.0 | gpe | entrance ]
# NOTE: If this is set in /etc/rc.conf, that setting will override this one.
# KDE-specific note: kdm-3.5 and kdm-4.0 are just examples. You will find all
# possible versions by looking at the directories in /usr/kde/.
DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
kevin@kermod ~ $

I've tried changing the DISPLAYMANAGER to kde, and I get different
symptoms.  This gets complicated, so I'm just reporting here what I
started with.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 19:27:03 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> # What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | kdm-3.5 |
> kdm-4.0 | gpe | entrance ]
>
> I've tried changing the DISPLAYMANAGER to kde,

Hmm, where in the list above do you see "kde"?

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dale]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:09:18 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory
>>>>         
>>> You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?
>>>
>>>       
>> I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.  I see no ebuild
>> called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.
>>
>> Note that the path it's complaining about is something in /usr/bin,
>> and that indeed could be the problem.
>>     
>
> Oh, and /etc/conf.d/xdm exists:
>
> kevin@kermod ~ $ cat xdm-090708a
> # We always try and start X on a static VT. The various DMs normally default
> # to using VT7. If you wish to use the xdm init script, then you should ensure
> # that the VT checked is the same VT your DM wants to use. We do this check to
> # ensure that you have't accidently configured something to run on the VT
> # in your /etc/inittab file so that you don't get a dead keyboard.
> CHECKVT=7
>
> # What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | kdm-3.5 |
> kdm-4.0 | gpe | entrance ]
> # NOTE: If this is set in /etc/rc.conf, that setting will override this one.
> # KDE-specific note: kdm-3.5 and kdm-4.0 are just examples. You will find all
> # possible versions by looking at the directories in /usr/kde/.
> DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
> kevin@kermod ~ $
>
> I've tried changing the DISPLAYMANAGER to kde, and I get different
> symptoms.  This gets complicated, so I'm just reporting here what I
> started with.
>
>   

You should not set the DISPLAYMANAGER to kde, it should be kdm.  Note
the "m" instead of the "e".  Setting that to kde will not work but kdm
just might.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 19:24:01 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.

That's only the init-script  and its config file.

> I see no ebuild
> called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.

# paludis -q xdm
* x11-apps/xdm
    gentoo:                  1.1.8* {:0}
    Homepage:                http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
    Description:             X.Org xdm application
    Use flags:               -debug -ipv6 pam Build Options: -optional_tests 
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> Note that the path it's complaining about is something in /usr/bin,
> and that indeed could be the problem.

Well, yes. That's where package xdm installs xdm into.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:24:01 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> >> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or
> >> directory  
> >
> > You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?
> >  
> 
> I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.  I see no ebuild
> called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.

]% eix -e xdm
* x11-apps/xdm
     Available versions:  1.1.8 {debug ipv6 pam}
     Homepage:            http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
     Description:         X.Org xdm application

If you want to use xdm, you need to install it. This is different from
the xdm init script, which runs whichever display manager you tell it to.

If you look at the comments in /etc/conf.d/xdm, it tells you what the
options are. Follow it's advice to get it to use whichever display
manager you want. Alternatively, check a backup from before things stop
working and see what the file said then.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If you can smile when things go wrong then you have someone in mind to
blame.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:24:01 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>
>> >> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or
>> >> directory
>> >
>> > You don't have xdm installed, have you checked /etc/conf.d/xdm?
>> >
>>
>> I do have xinit, which installs /etc/init.d/xdm.  I see no ebuild
>> called xdm, so if there's something else I need, please tell me.
>
> ]% eix -e xdm
> * x11-apps/xdm
>     Available versions:  1.1.8 {debug ipv6 pam}
>     Homepage:            http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
>     Description:         X.Org xdm application
>
> If you want to use xdm, you need to install it. This is different from
> the xdm init script, which runs whichever display manager you tell it to.
>
> If you look at the comments in /etc/conf.d/xdm, it tells you what the
> options are. Follow it's advice to get it to use whichever display
> manager you want. Alternatively, check a backup from before things stop
> working and see what the file said then.

As many have pointed out, you don't set "kde".  I knew that, and put
"kdm" in the config file, but described it as "kde" because that's how
I think about it.  I'm not completely stupid.

On the other hand, I really did think I had searched for "xdm" and not
found it.  So I'm partly stupid.  Now things are more intelligible to
me.  X is still not working, but you can see about that in a different
thread.

> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> If you can smile when things go wrong then you have someone in mind to
> blame.

Or, as in my case, you've realized just how stupid most of reality is,
no company excepted.  And found it both futile and funny
simultaneously.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Donnerstag 09 Juli 2009 01:19:10 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> As many have pointed out, you don't set "kde".  I knew that, and put
> "kdm" in the config file, but described it as "kde" because that's how
> I think about it.

Well, we can only see what you write, not what you think.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm wont start

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch 08 Juli 2009 18:09:18 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

> Script started on Wed 08 Jul 2009 09:00:25 AM PDT
> treat ~ # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
>  * Stopping xdm ...
> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory

If that what you want to start isn't there, well, you can't start it. So I 
guess you should install xdm.

HTH...

	Dirk


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