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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:44:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVG plugin
From: "Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@arcor.de> wrote=
:
>> On 06/15/2009 03:30 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>
>>> 2009/6/15 Florian Philipp<lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net>:
>>>>
>>>> Mick schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to view a web page I produced some yonks ago, which at that th=
e
>>>>> time would utilise the Adobe SVG plugin to render a gantt chart. =A0T=
he
>>>>> header of the file went like this:
>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>>> <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"iso-8859-1"?>
>>>>> <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20000303 Stylable//EN"
>>>>>
>>>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303/DTD/svg-20000303-stylab=
le.dtd">
>>>>> <svg xml:space=3D"preserve" width=3D"10in" height=3D"8in"
>>>>> style=3D"font-family:'Arial';font-size:8">
>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>>>
>>>>> Adobe seem to have abandoned further development. =A0Any idea what I =
can
>>>>> use to render such a graphic (image/svg+xml) in a browser?
>>>>
>>>> Firefox supports svg out of the box, now. Maybe you need the svg
>>>> USE-flag for x11-libs/cairo.
>>>
>>> Hmm, mozilla-firefox does not have an svg flag. =A0Anyway, I have svg i=
n
>>> my /etc/make.conf and also have cairo installed:
>>>
>>> [I] x11-libs/cairo
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0Installed versions: =A01.8.6-r1!t(18:54:43 03/17/09)(X glitz=
 opengl
>>> svg -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -xcb)
>>>
>>> It's not just FF, but also Opera and Konqueror cannot render it either
>>> and ask to download a plugin.
>>
>> The code in your webpage is probably wrong. =A0You should just use a nor=
mal
>> HTML header instead of this weird "<!DOCTYPE svg" thingy you're using no=
w.
>> =A0Embed SVG images inside the page with a PNG fallback like this:
>>
>> <object data=3D"URL_TO_YOUR.svg" type=3D"image/svg+xml" height=3D"PIXELS=
"
>> width=3D"PIXELS">
>> =A0 =A0<img src=3D"URL_TO_YOUR.png" height=3D"PIXELS" width=3D"PIXELS">
>> </object>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I tried that Adobe site in FF on gentoo and ubuntu with the same
> non-result. =A0On Vista, I tried FF, Opera, Safari and IE 8, with varied
> forms of failure. =A0Interestingly, Opera at least offered to start
> inkscape to view the image, which succeeded. =A0The text on that image
> suggested it's specific to an adobe plugin -- which it plugs of
> course.
>
> Does somebody have a web page with SVGs that normal browsers with
> non-proprietary plugins/viewers _can_ view?

I looked a little further.  I thought it interesting that Safari could
also not view the Adobe SVG thingy.  Moreover,
http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ shows they've dropped support
for their viewer, and the most recent blurb promoting SVG relates to
Illustrator CS2, when CS4 is the current version.  I have CS4, but
haven't learned to use it yet.

Is there a future in SVG?

--=20
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD