From: "Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:38:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9acccfe50903250938h618c3409w451cfbb7a1738ff8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0903250750t5f835b5ar999498ecec078bae@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have discovered that the symbol font does not render reliably in
>> browsers. Only one of my audience (of about a dozen people) could see
>> the font properly, in a variety of browsers. The one who could is
>> using Firefox, and I have not been able to determine what makes this
>> one special -- I do not have access to that machine to check out
>> configurations.
>>
>> I have a very simple HTML example at
>> http://www.kosmanor.com/~kevin/symbol.html. By rights it should show
>> "The quick brown fox" transliterated into greek letters. On most
>> browsers set up for English, it seems to come out in latin letters,
>> but there are no latin letter in that font, although these same
>> browsers honor requests for a variety of other fonts. This is true
>> even on some machines that definitely have the symbol font, and it's
>> usable in word processing documents.
>>
>> Of course, that sample page is ancient HTML, but the problem first
>> surfaced in HTML email being received on a much more sophisticated
>> page by Yahoo Mail.
>>
>> There's a lot I don't know about character encodings, i18n and the
>> rest, but this still seems discrimination against the symbol font.
>> Any clues out there?
>
> 1. "Symbol" is not a defined CSS font family. Your choices are: serif,
> sans-serif, cursive, fantasy, monospace.
I've changed the CSS to use the font-family property which accepts
actual fonts in addition to the generics you mention. No joy.
> 2. Character encodings are easy: use Unicode. :)
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/symbols.html
Yes they're easy. My question is about whether they have any effect
on use of Symbol So far I see no evidence of it.
> 3. Because neither your HTML nor your HTTP headers declare which
> character encoding the page uses, it is left up to the browser to make
> that decision (which obviously causes unpredictable results). You
> should really define this.
My browser default is Latin-1. The original YahooMail page specified
us-ascii. No difference.
> 4. Similarly, check the character encoding setting on the browser to
> make sure it's not forcing it to be wrong. Firefox also has options to
> allow or disallow the page from using its own fonts, etc.
My browser is set to allow this. No joy.
> 5. Make sure the requisite fonts exist on the viewer's computer and is
> properly installed.
It works in MS Works, Dreamweaver and on Gentoo, in OpenOffice.
>
--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-25 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-25 14:02 [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font Kevin O'Gorman
2009-03-25 14:15 ` Albert Hopkins
2009-03-25 16:33 ` Kevin O'Gorman
2009-03-25 14:50 ` Paul Hartman
2009-03-25 16:38 ` Kevin O'Gorman [this message]
2009-03-25 18:33 ` Paul Hartman
2009-03-26 6:35 ` Kevin O'Gorman
2009-03-26 15:39 ` Paul Hartman
2009-04-06 2:12 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2009-03-25 18:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Mike Kazantsev
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