From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLpbB-0007Mj-9l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAF43E0499; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC6AE0499 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1506745wag.10 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4cMKTluUWgo+CM/4lNmHRo48IBDPP/ZSiXd8rhOg8lA=; b=bJFqXjZNPzSsvKRFY1lGl8Gr0RWvesrjB7SZAHNJxZ23Sdqv82fFnKOTKsTfwQcjU9 IgImf9ti/XzR9gU8Y5exaUo7cLkMphxXgYtyJDXmaOYX6gZnMxMOWnayL4cpyOynxarC x9hMx2h7DPkORws1H24KlmnjKQvAHx+Q0tfrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=myLir14QnLXy8tWi2sY/RoukHGdAmh3Kmk4wcUQqhGOCD/UsfnEvX9o7kuXiZ3lmFj 34tBSa3ZPNBNQhmaEABMnvsAP8XlEHLf5XnBlBI1IGE4fLS6ka+3VC9QqTxGsmtBVRZT Uu9hIGS3IL5NEm8cHdcVigbxj4tWIWN8huaZc= Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr322007wab.2.1216862786891; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.171.1 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9acccfe50807231826o32f6362amabdd266d3ca95b9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:26:26 -0700 From: "Kevin O'Gorman" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable? In-Reply-To: <200807240206.20794.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9acccfe50807230952y795535cck52a8872d42b805c6@mail.gmail.com> <200807240206.20794.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Archives-Salt: 2074da56-0d59-45c2-a420-905e2d1298f6 X-Archives-Hash: f9d77ca633c76755d7e654abfd7c81bf On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing. >> >> This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting >> warnings and other oddities during compilation. I don't like warnings >> at any time, and with the kernel's make wrappers cleaning up the >> output they tend to stand out. >> >> Here's what I get: >> -- various type/attribute warnings > > harmless. > >> -- reports of deprecated elements > > even more harmless > >> -- a report of "section mismatches", and instructions to use "make >> CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y" to find details. > > completly harmless. > > All three 'problems' can be safely ignored. So do it. > And how would I know they're harmless. No offense, but I don't know enough about you to evaluate your skill or knowledge. I have seen lots of build problems over the decades, but these are new to me. What I see is that for some time now, kernel builds have been utterly clean, admirably free from the tedious command-line echoes that obscure any real information from compiler/linker/whatever build tools. Suddenly there are three kinds of reports, most of them a kind that I cannot evaluate. There is no sign of the care that I've found in other builds, where expected artifacts are announced by the build ("expect 3 strength/reduce errors here"). The kernel build-toolset look like they it would take a major project to comprehend, which I do not have time for. So what's a poor user to do? Believe the first poster responding with (apparent) authority? Maybe. I'm just going to stay away for a while and see what shakes out. >> >> All that being said, the compilation completes, and I can boot it. I >> don't know the cause, but I have been unable to get vmware-server >> running on it, and I'm going back to the previous kernel for that >> reason. > > complain to vmware - it's their closed source crap that doesn't work. I have less clout with vmware than I have with the kernel team, I would guess, because I don't pay either one, but at least the kernel team are not in business to get money from me. But reasonable virtualization is essential to some of my own projects, and I have to stick with it. If I have to, I'll learn a different tools set, but it's not something I take up lightly. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD