From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JggV2-0007Ba-Ma for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:26:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB836E0375; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68071E0375 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c29so473479ika.2 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TEtMwn87GlP8aMHuN8V+Q+KV8icq68aw3Nw7VQoANtc=; b=Af6tc9WGg6QP+Z/616dVcS0NagDlScCVf+6MGZn+6w4lM2Y7nkfFEXBHQQl++APKAakaYrVhP/Vmaryk4zOkqMU+FWnJZPQWScHF4wiPa5aW59y00VqVdNFLfkRTZqvd08LjOi3mSIgFy31dUKDGpRAZzZSrKHnJy61kNBkD5zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Y7gl5eypsKl818r0pSgi179v4QSjHE2jBteAwL7rRdDoEbFSe29HRXX0zrk5lehnB9wvL4ojWMrvycKJnHjU3/I/EiyehgzH/2B3CgWLlf/r4FxmNYSS5sv8qESM8qU8dAnZQHunjWG3+zi3Y+sGzZ0+StHqvCu1QKnIb0lgVsU= Received: by 10.142.143.7 with SMTP id q7mr4731914wfd.3.1207056356836; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.82.18 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9acccfe50804010625g5207d39ue416497bce3c02bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:25:56 -0700 From: "Kevin O'Gorman" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors In-Reply-To: <200803312045.42139.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20268_16620505.1207056356808" References: <9acccfe50803290930t22a27552x32fd9dcf21080d66@mail.gmail.com> <200803300016.08127.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <9acccfe50803311025jcc9c59di25cd436f41d6671d@mail.gmail.com> <200803312045.42139.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 4e2eacee-f657-4081-a4f4-91cbcd94abd6 X-Archives-Hash: a4dcfcb0758d78cc9772e8c7f10ba51e ------=_Part_20268_16620505.1207056356808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast > > works fine for me. What display device do you use? > > > > > > What do you mean about contrast? > > > > My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range > > brightness and contrast. > > My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast > between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can > see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the > same one bold is also obvious. > > I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found > that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to > price (this seems to have settled now though). > One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all monitors the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more slender than when the colors are reversed. With small fonts (I like high resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering hard to read. > > You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I > don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However, > have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number > of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently > hard for the person to detect it in themselves. > I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the university level. :o) But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have dealt with this. I've been muttering under my breath about this for a few years now and I thought it likely that others may have taken action. As for vision: I have such an exam yearly. I always see the numerals in their samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. Nevertheless, it's possible it's vision-related since it works this way for me on all monitors, and in my work I see a lot of monitors. ++ kevin > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD ------=_Part_20268_16620505.1207056356808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast
>  works fine for me. What display device do you use?
>
>
> What do you mean about contrast?
>
> My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range
> brightness and contrast.

My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast
between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can
see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the
same one bold is also obvious.

I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found
that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to
price (this seems to have settled now though).

One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all monitors
the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more
slender than when the colors are reversed.  With small fonts (I like high
resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering hard to read.

You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I
don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However,
have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number
of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently
hard for the person to detect it in themselves.

I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the university level.  :o)
But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have dealt
with this.  I've been muttering under my breath about this for a few years
now and I thought it likely that others may have taken action.

As for vision: I have such an exam yearly.  I always see the numerals in their
samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. Nevertheless, it's
possible it's vision-related since it works this way for me on all monitors, and
in my work I see a lot of monitors.

++ kevin

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Alan McKinnon
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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