[gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Kevin O'Gorman]

The ebuild for media-libs/libmpeg3-1.5.2 is giving me a message I don't
know how to use:

> WARN: prerm
> Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass
>
> WARN: postrm
> Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass

I don't know how to upgrade this any more than what I just did by emerging it.
Anybody know what it's talking about?  Anybody even know what toolchain-funcs
it's talking about -- my browse through the portage tree comes up with
no obvious
candidate.

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi,

On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 18:43 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> The ebuild for media-libs/libmpeg3-1.5.2 is giving me a message I don't
> know how to use:
> 
> > WARN: prerm
> > Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass
> >
> > WARN: postrm
> > Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass
> 
> I don't know how to upgrade this any more than what I just did by emerging it.
> Anybody know what it's talking about?  Anybody even know what toolchain-funcs
> it's talking about -- my browse through the portage tree comes up with
> no obvious
> candidate.

I think (and I'm kindof guessing) is this is a message from dev's to
dev's, essentially saying the ebuild (libmpeg) needs to be altered
slightly to use some new features of portage instead of some old.
Something to do with the nature of the continuing development on
portage.

I think you don't need to worry about it at all, so long as your package
installs in the end.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Ryan Tandy]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>> WARN: prerm
>> Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use 
>> toolchain-funcs.eclass
> 

Needs to be fixed by the maintainer of the ebuild.  If you feel like it, 
file a bug (check first to see that there isn't already one), or if you 
really feel like being obnoxious, e-mail the maintainer (check in the 
ebuild).
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On 7/22/06, Ryan Tandy <tarpman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> >> WARN: prerm
> >> Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use
> >> toolchain-funcs.eclass
> >
>
> Needs to be fixed by the maintainer of the ebuild.  If you feel like it,
> file a bug (check first to see that there isn't already one), or if you
> really feel like being obnoxious, e-mail the maintainer (check in the
> ebuild).
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

This was not the first time.  It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a new
fresh crop.  Am I then to understand that none of these messages will ever
be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not true).

If not, how am I to tell?  What clues are you guys going on?  Is it just beyond
some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as for
devs only?

IMNSHO, there's gotta be a better way to run this.

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

>
> This was not the first time.  It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a
> new fresh crop.  Am I then to understand that none of these messages will
> ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not
> true).
>
> If not, how am I to tell?  What clues are you guys going on?  Is it just
> beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as
> for devs only?
>

the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in ebuilds to 
use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And correcting ebuilds 
is dev stuff.

No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it is 
for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs.


If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize. 
Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to 
rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On 8/13/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>
> >
> > This was not the first time.  It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a
> > new fresh crop.  Am I then to understand that none of these messages will
> > ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not
> > true).
> >
> > If not, how am I to tell?  What clues are you guys going on?  Is it just
> > beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as
> > for devs only?
> >
>
> the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in ebuilds to
> use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And correcting ebuilds
> is dev stuff.
>
> No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it is
> for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs.
>
>
> If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize.
> Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to
> rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user.

I'm not reassured.  I don't think messages among devs should share a
channel with messages to users without some explicit tagging.  The stuff
you say is for devs looks worrisome to me because I don't really understand
it.  I'd like something more clear.
++ kevin


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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 07:54, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On 8/13/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> 
wrote:
> > On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > > This was not the first time.  It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking
> > > at a new fresh crop.  Am I then to understand that none of these
> > > messages will ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually,
> > > I know that's not true).
> > >
> > > If not, how am I to tell?  What clues are you guys going on?  Is it
> > > just beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that
> > > marks it as for devs only?
> >
> > the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in
> > ebuilds to use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And
> > correcting ebuilds is dev stuff.
> >
> > No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it
> > is for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs.
> >
> >
> > If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize.
> > Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to
> > rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user.
>
> I'm not reassured.  I don't think messages among devs should share a
> channel with messages to users without some explicit tagging.  The stuff
> you say is for devs looks worrisome to me because I don't really understand
> it.  I'd like something more clear.

if there is really a problem the ebuild aborts.

Is that clear enough?

Most of the 'for dev' messages, have a QA in front of it. This ones can be 
ignored by you safely. Everything that might be interessting for you is in 
the ebuild, in the 'einfo' block.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 15 August 2006 13:27, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> Everything that might be interessting for you is in
> the ebuild, in the 'einfo' block.

Or 'ewarn' or 'eerror' or 'elog'. And in the case of an eerror the emerge will 
die too. All of those four have an asterisk '*' in front of it when displayed 
on the console.

I think the purpose of having it shown to users too is to make sure that a bug 
report will be filed which is an option for users who knows what it means 
least...

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