[gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

I'm getting a failed dependencies error indicating that there are a 
number of failed deps. I think I know what some of them are but have no 
idea which Gentoo packages the others can be installed from. Here's the 
error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:

error: Failed dependencies:
    /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libICE.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libXext.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libcrypt.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libglib-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libnsl.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libutil.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libz.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
    libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01

Thanks in advance for your help.

~ Tom
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[gentoo-user] Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter]

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:47:53 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

> I'm getting a failed dependencies error indicating that there are a 
> number of failed deps. I think I know what some of them are but have no 
> idea which Gentoo packages the others can be installed from. Here's the 
> error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:
> 

This is easy. Install with --nodeps. You _may_ want to consider vmware.
Pro is not so good IMHO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal 
Server.

I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from 
their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think 
VMware can do anything like this, can it?

Peter wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:47:53 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I'm getting a failed dependencies error indicating that there are a 
>>number of failed deps. I think I know what some of them are but have no 
>>idea which Gentoo packages the others can be installed from. Here's the 
>>error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:
>>
>>    
>>
>
>This is easy. Install with --nodeps. You _may_ want to consider vmware.
>Pro is not so good IMHO.
>
>  
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter]

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

> VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal 
> Server.
> 
> I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from 
> their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think 
> VMware can do anything like this, can it?
> 

Don't know if VMW has anything like a terminal server. However, you
should read the Win4Lin forums and see some of the comments. I don't even
think the server product is finished yet. If it's anything like Pro, then
stay away.

What you installed is NOT the terminal server product. Good luck.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 22 December 2005 23:47, Tom Smith wrote:
> Here's the
> error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:
>
> error: Failed dependencies:
>     /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
...

Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the 
license code. They haven't officially released the "Terminal Server" 
product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got 
is the "initial" release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for 
Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality.

I'm not sure if I'll be sticking with their Pro version of TS or not. I 
currently use WTS 3.0--we use it for compatibility purposes. We have a 
large number of Access 97 databases that aren't compatible with Office 
2003--so WTS 3.0 is running Win98SE and Office 97 until we can get all 
the database converted.

The biggest problem with WTS 3 is that the fricking Num Lock doesn't 
work on ANY Linux distro I've tried EXCEPT MDK 9.2. My MDK server is 
having some serious issues and needs to be replaced. I'm hoping to be 
able to get Pro working on Gentoo so I can get rid of MDK--only time 
will tell, I'll have two months to test it.

It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments 
about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or 
other people having with it?

Peter wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
>
>  
>
>>VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal 
>>Server.
>>
>>I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from 
>>their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think 
>>VMware can do anything like this, can it?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know if VMW has anything like a terminal server. However, you
>should read the Win4Lin forums and see some of the comments. I don't even
>think the server product is finished yet. If it's anything like Pro, then
>stay away.
>
>What you installed is NOT the terminal server product. Good luck.
>
>
>  
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Dale]

Peter Ruskin wrote:

>On Thursday 22 December 2005 23:47, Tom Smith wrote:
>  
>
>>Here's the
>>error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:
>>
>>error: Failed dependencies:
>>    /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
>>    
>>
>...
>
>Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
>is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
>
>  
>
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing something.  
Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why does it have to be 
a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I said, maybe I'm missing 
something here.

> root@smoker / # emerge -p win4lin
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
> root@smoker / #


Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't worry.

Dale
:-)


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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[John Jolet]

On Dec 22, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Dale wrote:

> Peter Ruskin wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 22 December 2005 23:47, Tom Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the
>>> error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:
>>>
>>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>>    /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you  
>> need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
>>
>>
> I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing  
> something.  Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why  
> does it have to be a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I  
> said, maybe I'm missing something here.
>
well, not sure about the pro version, but the regular version  
vanished from portage.....  had to download the rpm, emerge rpm, and  
vanilla sources, patch my kernel, rebuild, install new kernel, then  
install the rpm.  been great other than that :).

>> root@smoker / # emerge -p win4lin
>>
>> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies ...done!
>> [ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
>> root@smoker / #
>
>
> Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't  
> worry.
>
> Dale
> :-)
>
>
> -- 
> To err is human, I'm most certainly human.
>
> I have four rigs:
>
> 1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and  
> right now two 80GB hard drives.
> 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a  
> 4GB drive.
> 3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and  
> a 2.5GB drive.
> 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram  
> and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.
>
> All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and  
> 4 are set up as servers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

Dale wrote:

> I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing 
> something.  Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why does 
> it have to be a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I said, maybe 
> I'm missing something here.
>
>> root@smoker / # emerge -p win4lin
>>
>> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies ...done!
>> [ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
>> root@smoker / #
>
>
>
> Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't worry.
>
> Dale
> :-)

Because the Portage Win4Lin is at version 5--the Netraverse version is 
at 6 and includes additional "Pro" utilities that provide the Terminal 
Server functionality, among other things.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Dale]

Tom Smith wrote:

>
> Because the Portage Win4Lin is at version 5--the Netraverse version is 
> at 6 and includes additional "Pro" utilities that provide the Terminal 
> Server functionality, among other things.

Maybe some poor soul, Tom Smith maybe ;, can ask them to update the 
thing to version 6?  It sounds easier than all this stuff for sure.  
Gentoo is a bit off base for rpm stuff.  Surely there a package 
maintaner that could get it updated to version 6.  May even be working 
on it and need a tester.

Just thinking out loud, sort of.

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +0000, Peter Ruskin wrote:

> Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
> is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."

Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
showed and make sure they are all installed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +0000, Peter Ruskin wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
>>is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
>>    
>>
>
>Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
>showed and make sure they are all installed.
>  
>
That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Holly Bostick]

Tom Smith schreef:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +0000, Peter Ruskin wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you 
>>> need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
>>  showed and make sure they are all installed.
>> 
>> 
> That was my original question that started this thread... Which 
> Gentoo packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that
>  RPM indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The RPM errors do not mean that those packages are not installed.

I mean, come on--
> error: Failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libICE.so.6 is needed 
> by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXext.so.6 is needed 
> by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1 is needed by
>  Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libglib-1.2.so.0 is
>  needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1 is 
> needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libz.so.1 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01

Surely you don't think that you're missing /bin/sh or glibc!!

The issue here is that RPMs use an RPM database to keep track of what is
installed. You don't have an RPM database, because Gentoo is
not a binary RPM-based distribution and therefore none of the
dependencies were installed via RPM. You are never going to be able to
convince the RPM which you're trying to install independently that the
programs are already present.

This is why --nodeps was suggested; the RPM you're trying to install
won't then try to scan the non-existant database for programs that are
installed, but not via RPM. Presumably the ebuilds for RPM applications
do a complex process of linking the various aspects of the pre-compiled
binary to the previously-existing aspects of the Gentoo system, so that
the RPM doesn't freak out, and the Gentoo system can access the RPM program.

Win4Lin is, naturally, a very complicated install, and so it's not as if
you could just 'pop it in' as if it was Flash or the ATI drivers
(one-function applications that don't require hooks to many parts of the
base system). Were I you, I would consider looking at the most recent
Win4Lin ebuild and see how it does it, then either try copying the
ebuild to my overlay and updating it to work with the current version
you have-- or as previously suggested, contacting the maintainer of the
Win4Lin ebuild (or posting a bug to that effect) and seeing if you can
get an update. After all, the maintainer will have to do this sometime,
when the app is released, and perhaps it's a difficult procedure that
takes some time. So it might be worthwhile to give said maintainer a
heads-up now and get the ball rolling if it is not. At the very least,
you might be able to get some tips as to how to get a
provisional/temporary/overlay ebuild working, or what the issues
involved might be.

HTH,
Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:42:06 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

> >Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
> >showed and make sure they are all installed.

> That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
> packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
> indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The key word here is "indicated". rpm only knows about the files in its
database, files that were themselves installed by rpm. Obviously, that
database is empty on a Gentoo system as everything has been installed from
portage.

What you need to do is go through the list of files that rpm says it
needs and check for the existence of each one with locate (run updatedb
before you start, to be safe). You may well find that they all exist, in
which case you can call rpm with --nodeps. If not, you'll have a far
shorter list of truly missing files to check up on. If the package for a
file is not obvious from its name, try searching for it on
http://rpmfind.net or http://packages.debian.org. This will tell you
which package supplies this file on other distros, the Gentoo package
will generally have a similar name.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter]

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

> Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the 
> license code. They haven't officially released the "Terminal Server" 
> product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got 
> is the "initial" release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for 
> Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality.
> 
We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L
version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product.

snip...

> 
> The biggest problem with WTS 3 is that the fricking Num Lock doesn't
> work on ANY Linux distro I've tried EXCEPT MDK 9.2. 
> 

Try using numlockx.

> It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments
> about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or
> other people having with it?
> 

Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow.
You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they
included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a
long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages.

Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5
is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and
current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly
work right. Again read their forum pages.

Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4
Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6

Good luck.

> Peter wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal
>>>Server.
>>>
>>>I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from
>>>their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think
>>>VMware can do anything like this, can it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Don't know if VMW has anything like a terminal server. However, you
>>should read the Win4Lin forums and see some of the comments. I don't
>>even think the server product is finished yet. If it's anything like
>>Pro, then stay away.
>>
>>What you installed is NOT the terminal server product. Good luck.
>>
>>
>>  
>>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

Peter wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the 
>>license code. They haven't officially released the "Terminal Server" 
>>product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got 
>>is the "initial" release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for 
>>Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality.
>>
>>    
>>
>We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L
>version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product.
>  
>

With respect, "officially" Pro and Server are separate products--that 
is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 
3.0) will only run Win9x.

If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it 
pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal 
Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from 
Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year 
to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only 
one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will 
try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the 
manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at "Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users 
Guide"--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information.

http://www.win4lin.com/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,99/Itemid,145/

>>It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments
>>about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or
>>other people having with it?
>>    
>>
>
>Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow.
>You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they
>included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a
>long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages.
>
>Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5
>is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and
>current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly
>work right. Again read their forum pages.
>
>Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4
>Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6
>
>Good luck.
>  
>
Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro 
product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't 
indicate whether it's Pro or Home.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter]

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:35:37 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
> 
snip...
> With respect, "officially" Pro and Server are separate products--that 
> is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 
> 3.0) will only run Win9x.
> 
I thought you meant that W4L Pro Was also the server product. I understand
there is only WTS 3 right now and that a new server product is in beta.

> If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it
> pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal
> Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from
> Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year
> to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only
> one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will
> try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the
> manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at "Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users
> Guide"--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information.
> 
Maybe I misunderstand. I always thought Pro was only a client and that the
WTS was a separate product. I don't think PRO can be both. It CAN be a WTS
client. Anyway, I don't use either, so what do I know? :)
snip...
> Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro
> product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't
> indicate whether it's Pro or Home.

This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin
versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since for a
LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher
"pickledonion" abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in
September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out
kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like
myself, who left them.

You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers for the
Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I _think_ I
read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different
name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel patches, so
I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as the
product can't work.

Good luck.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[John Jolet]

On Dec 24, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Peter wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:35:37 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
>>
> snip...
>> With respect, "officially" Pro and Server are separate products--that
>> is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product  
>> (WTS
>> 3.0) will only run Win9x.
>>
> I thought you meant that W4L Pro Was also the server product. I  
> understand
> there is only WTS 3 right now and that a new server product is in  
> beta.
>
>> If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section  
>> in it
>> pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the  
>> Terminal
>> Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from
>> Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last  
>> year
>> to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only
>> one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will
>> try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the
>> manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at "Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users
>> Guide"--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information.
>>
> Maybe I misunderstand. I always thought Pro was only a client and  
> that the
> WTS was a separate product. I don't think PRO can be both. It CAN  
> be a WTS
> client. Anyway, I don't use either, so what do I know? :)
> snip...
>> Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro
>> product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description  
>> doesn't
>> indicate whether it's Pro or Home.
>
> This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin
> versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since  
> for a
> LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher
> "pickledonion" abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in
> September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out
> kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like
> myself, who left them.
>
> You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers  
> for the
> Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I  
> _think_ I
> read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different
> name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel  
> patches, so
> I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as  
> the
> product can't work.
>
I'm not sure what you mean by "can't work".  It's working on my box,  
but not through the ebuild.  It's not the "pro" version, though.   
Depends on what you need it for.  I just needed to run one app and  
it's working fine.
> Good luck.
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Tom Smith]

Peter wrote:

>>Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro
>>product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't
>>indicate whether it's Pro or Home.
>>    
>>
>
>This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin
>versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since for a
>LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher
>"pickledonion" abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in
>September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out
>kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like
>myself, who left them.
>
>You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers for the
>Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I _think_ I
>read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different
>name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel patches, so
>I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as the
>product can't work.
>  
>
Netraverse moved away from their kernel-based install to an installation 
that requires no kernel patching. The old W4L Win9x stuff still requires 
the kernel patches, but the Home and Pro versions do not.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

[Peter]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:46:32 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
> Netraverse moved away from their kernel-based install to an installation
> that requires no kernel patching. The old W4L Win9x stuff still requires
> the kernel patches, but the Home and Pro versions do not.

Sorry Tom, you are incorrect. Win4Lin 9X/Home require kernel patching. I
think you are confusing Pro with 9X and Home. Pro requires no patching,
but only Pro. Of course, for _some_ distros, there is a binary kernel
replacement for use with 9X/Home. Not so for gentoo. Regards

http://www.win4lin.com/content/view/161/187/

Win4Lin Kernel Patching
Win4Lin 9x, Win4Lin Home, and Win4Lin Terminal Server require a modified
kernel to work. For a majority of users, running the Win4Lin or WTS
graphical installer will select, download, and install the appropriate
binary replacement kernel, and patching a kernel will not be necessary.
However, there are some distributions that may require you to compile a
vanilla kernel from source, such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and 4,
Fedora Core 3 and 4.

The Kernel Patch README file provides advanced users with the Win4Lin
kernel patching requirements. A detailed kernel patching guide is
available in the Win4Lin Kernel Patching Guide available from Support ->
Documents -> Win4Lin 9x Howtos

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