I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. Like I said before a Stable tree should be just that Stable. There is no reason someone should have to completely change to the Unstable branch when all of the programs that he / she wants are marked stable for that arch. On 11/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot > > > say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install > > > most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. > > > Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 > > > allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. > > > > > > Just my take on the question. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Mark > > > > True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I > set up > > server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the > installation > > is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I > don't > > really touch it except for security related updates. > > Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an > option > > doesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me. > > Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove > options, however, in response to Derek's original point about rising > or fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make the > default install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely more > successful, and then create some (not so obvious) option to allow > folks like you that have good reasons to do Stage 1 if they want it. > > I know not what I speak of as I cannot even imagine anymore why I'd > want to do a Stage 1 install, but I do assume all that work must have > some value to others. > > Take care, > Mark > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- --------------------------------- Derek Tracy tracyde@gmail.com ---------------------------------