From: Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:25:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9854601.nUPlyArG6x@lenovo.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+edOhCjcokfLW=qF+HddMRqHNXMrd9gpvyn4NFHpyfObeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 13:27:24 GMT Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:10 PM Grant Taylor <
>
> gtaylor@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> > On 2/21/21 3:23 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
> > > Will someone please explain why the Gentoo AMD64 Handbook ~> Gentoo (at
> > > large) says to add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 (or ::1) entry
> > > in the /etc/hosts file? What was the thought process behind that?
> >
> > Shameless Bump -- I'm still interested in understanding the logic
> > behind the choice in the Gentoo Handbook.
> >
> > Additional information.
> >
> > The Samba Wiki states the following in the Preparing the Installation
> > section of the Setting up Samba as an Active Directory Domain Controller
> > document.
> >
> > "The host name and FQDN must not resolve to the 127.0.0.1 IP address or
> > any other IP address than the one used on the LAN interface of the DC."
> >
> > Link - Setting up Samba as an Active Directory Domain Controller -
> > Preparing the Installation
> >
> > -
>
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting_up_Samba_as_an_Active_Directory_Dom
> ain_Controller#Preparing_the_Installation
>
>
> AND
>
> [quote]
> I'm reading Kerberos - The Definitive Guide[1] and it makes the
>
> following comment:
> > And to make matters worse, some Unix systems map their own hostname
> > to 127.0.0.1 (the loopback IP address).
>
> [/quote]
>
> Caveat - not an expert, just my meager understanding:
>
> 1) The name 'localhost' is historically for developers who want to access
> their own machine _without_ using DNS.
>
> 2) By general practice sometime in the deep, dark times 127.0.0.1 was
> accepted for this purpose. There's nothing special about the address.
>
> 3) I read the original quoted comment in the Kerberos Guide as a warning -
> 'to make matters worse, __SOME__"
>
> 4) In my /etc/hosts I do _NOT_ map my machine's name to the same address as
> localhost, avoiding the Kerberos warning:
>
> mark@science:~$ cat /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 127.0.1.1 science
>
> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
>
> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
>
> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
>
> mark@science:~$ ping localhost
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms
>
> mark@science:~$ ping science
> PING science (127.0.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from science (127.0.1.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms
>
> mark@science:~$ hostname
> science
> mark@science:~$ hostname -I
> 192.168.86.42
> mark@science:~$ hostname -A
> science.lan
> mark@science:~$ hostname -f
> science
> mark@science:~$ hostname -i
> 127.0.1.1
> mark@science:~$
I think this is relevant to DNS resolution of/with domain controllers and may
depend on the AD/DC topology. The idea is to use the LAN address of the box
as the first address in /etc/hosts and use 127.0.0.1 as the second address in
the file. If more AD/DNS servers exist in the network, then 127.0.0.1 could
be even further down the list.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2008-R2-and-2008/ff807362(v=ws.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN
I haven't over-thought this and there may be more to it, but on a pure linux
environment I expect this would not be a requirement, hence the handbook
approach.
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-21 22:23 [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file? Grant Taylor
2021-02-22 6:20 ` Andrew Udvare
2021-02-25 2:37 ` Peter Humphrey
2021-02-25 2:50 ` Grant Taylor
2021-02-25 7:02 ` Arve Barsnes
2021-02-25 7:33 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 5:09 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 13:27 ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 15:25 ` Michael [this message]
2021-03-10 16:00 ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 16:38 ` Michael
2021-03-10 17:07 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 17:01 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 16:58 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 13:38 ` Michael
2021-03-11 16:50 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-12 19:04 ` Michael
2021-03-13 19:01 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-16 12:16 ` Michael
2021-03-16 12:33 ` Peter Humphrey
2021-03-16 18:54 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 17:04 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 16:44 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 17:43 ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 18:37 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 10:54 ` Wols Lists
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