From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E4Tpk-0007dZ-Hj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:32:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7F1UR2O025220; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:30:27 GMT Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7F1OtpC026418 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:24:56 GMT Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j7F1PKbm018460 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (cpe001217fa060b-cm0013718c1a36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.10.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j7F1PHat027679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: <200508141826.12813.menola@sbcglobal.net> References: <1123371608.32004.3.camel@sf.rout.dyndns.org> <200508141605.23088.menola@sbcglobal.net> <107AC177-FB49-43AB-BC6C-DB72038271FD@mac.com> <200508141826.12813.menola@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9765C13D-F289-44C4-87E6-014EA902002E@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Hoy Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives? Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:25:16 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Archives-Salt: 47c5fd8f-5ce6-48e0-9b3a-2761c8362867 X-Archives-Hash: 0ae7edb31b6c0acc5bd9c4b6067ebb52 On Aug 14, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Joe Menola wrote: > On Sunday August 14 2005 5:43 pm, Paul Hoy wrote: > >> On Aug 14, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Joe Menola wrote: >> >>> On Sunday August 14 2005 2:42 pm, Paul Hoy wrote: >>> >>>> Linux from Scratch looks very interesting: it appears to rapidly >>>> support >>>> the latest updates and it has decent documentation. Does any one >>>> have any >>>> perspectives on Linux from Scratch, from a Gentoo point-of-view? >>>> Does >>>> anyone wish to share a comparison of the two? >>>> >>> >>> I've built both Gentoo and LFS. A side by side comparison comes up >>> pretty much >>> equal. Except for documentation, where Gentoo wins hands down. IMO >>> >>> google>"gentoo"=3,990,000 hits >>> google>"lfs"=877,000 hits >>> >>> -jm >>> > > >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> What about the LFS community - did you find it helpful? >> >> Of course, the answer is probably objective. Developer types may not >> have to rely so much on community whereas those who have the great >> capacity to take forever to understand the point, like myself, >> require a good community. >> >> Also, I agree with you that the Gentoo documentation (most of it) is >> excellent; I've printed, and have read most of it. >> >> One more question, and it's the most obvious. You said that Gentoo >> and LFS are more or less equal. So, that begs the question: what >> persuaded you to stick with Gentoo? >> >> Thanks , >> Paul >> > > The LFs community was very helpful, I couldn't have built a working > system > without them. :) > I just find it easier when Goggle finds other documented problems > that match > mine. The size of the Gentoo user base makes this much more likely > with > Gentoo vs LFS. > To answer the obvious...Gentoo is easier to build then LFS. LFS's > style of > package by package installing is great for learning the workings of > Linux, > and I wouldn't trade-in my experience with LFS for anything. Yes, that's what attracted me to Gentoo and to LFS/BLFS also: I'm interested in learning the inner workings of Linux. I've hacked around with Linux since the very early days of Redhat, but I still don't have a comprehensive understanding of the OS. This is despite that fact that I usually used tarballs rather than RPMs, even in Redhat and Fedora. > But starting from scratch with LFS and obtaining a working Kde > desktop took me (from > memory) a few weeks to build. With Gentoo, I was there in a few > days thanks > to "emerge kde-meta". > Yeah, there were even some pre-compiled Linux distros in which it took a long time to get a Gnome desktop (vlos and foresight linux, for instance). Like you, it took me a few days to get a working Gnome desktop with Gentoo. > -jm > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > Thanks, Joe. This is the kind of conversation I was looking for. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list