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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 19:22:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96246f9b-fd56-1a3d-991c-9dc02a540048@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51fbe8dd-5fb7-40f4-a274-782c1a66b517@youngman.org.uk>

Wol wrote:
> On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote:
>> I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were
>> going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the
>> limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a
>> motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to combat that problem,
>> they are putting as much of the fast stuff as they can on the CPU die
>> which can handle the higher frequencies.  It kinda makes sense
>> really.  I still wonder if one day, we buy a board with a chip,
>> memory slots and then a couple ports for video, data storage and user
>> inputs.  That's it.  In a way, it's not far from that now.
>
> I don't know how long ago it was, but it's quite a long time ago that
> silicon traces got so slim that that quantum tunnelling is a problem.
> Are we down to 5nm traces?
>
> Either way, we are down to traces about 5 or 10 atoms wide. At which
> point electrons can just "magically" quantum jump between tracks.
> Obviously, this is quite serious before if your ones and noughts
> consist of just a few electrons, and they can randomly jump about,
> you're going to get bit errors left right and centre.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
> .
>


According to the link Mark posted, they are down to 3 nm on some Apple
M3 and M4 chips.  At that size, how much current can even flow through
that thing???  There are several others at 4 nm and 5nm.  Quite a few
actually.  It seems they found a way to break quantum law.  o_O  They
seem to have done that about 3 years ago. 

Somebody has a serious slide rule.  O_O 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-05  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02  5:38 [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together? Dale
2024-06-02  7:54 ` Wols Lists
2024-06-02 13:27   ` Dale
2024-06-02 13:42     ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-02 14:01       ` Dale
2024-06-02 14:03     ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-02 15:11       ` Dale
2024-06-02 15:51         ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-02 17:54           ` Dale
2024-06-15  6:53           ` Dale
2024-06-15  9:53             ` Michael
2024-06-15 11:01               ` Dale
2024-06-15 12:29                 ` Michael
2024-06-15 21:41                   ` Dale
2024-06-15 23:07                     ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-16  1:34                       ` William Kenworthy
2024-06-16  4:55                         ` Dale
2024-06-16  8:40                           ` Michael
2024-06-16  8:54                             ` Michael
2024-06-16 13:35                               ` Dale
2024-06-16 14:19                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-16 16:14                                   ` Dale
2024-06-16 23:28                             ` Wols Lists
2024-06-17  0:40                               ` Dale
2024-06-16 15:47                           ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-16 16:30                             ` Dale
2024-06-17  9:37                               ` Dale
2024-06-16 12:59                       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-16 14:44                         ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-16 16:19                           ` Dale
2024-06-15 11:18             ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-15 12:01               ` Dale
2024-06-15 15:28                 ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-15 16:55                   ` Michael
2024-06-15 19:19                     ` Peter Humphrey
2024-06-02 14:03     ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-02 19:41     ` Wols Lists
2024-06-03 23:57     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-03  3:21 ` Dale
2024-06-03  7:42   ` Alan Grimes
2024-06-03  9:12     ` Dale
2024-06-03  9:31       ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-03 11:06         ` Dale
2024-06-03 11:29           ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-03 15:17             ` Dale
2024-06-03 16:22               ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-03 19:28                 ` Dale
2024-06-04  6:44                   ` Dale
2024-06-04  9:49                     ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-04 11:56                       ` Dale
2024-06-04 13:15                         ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-04 18:34                           ` Dale
2024-06-04 18:58                             ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-04 20:09                               ` Dale
2024-06-04 19:05                             ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-04 20:27                               ` Dale
2024-06-04 20:37                                 ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-04 21:03                                   ` Dale
2024-06-04 21:24                                     ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-04 21:36                                       ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-04 22:11                                         ` Dale
2024-06-04 22:26                                           ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-04 22:58                                             ` Dale
2024-06-04 22:49                                           ` Wol
2024-06-05  0:22                                             ` Dale [this message]
2024-06-06 21:12                       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-08  2:05                         ` Dale
2024-06-08  9:39                           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-08 13:40                             ` Meowie Gamer
2024-06-09 21:41                               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-09 22:24                                 ` Meowie Gamer
2024-06-08 17:46                             ` Dale
2024-06-08 20:48                               ` Michael
2024-06-08 22:41                                 ` Dale
2024-06-09  9:07                                   ` Michael
2024-06-09 10:06                                     ` Dale
2024-06-09 15:05                               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-09 22:13                                 ` Dale
2024-06-09 22:49                                   ` Michael
2024-06-09 23:11                                     ` Dale
2024-06-10  0:29                                   ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-10  4:26                                     ` Dale
2024-06-10  9:17                                       ` Michael
2024-06-10 10:03                                         ` Dale
2024-06-10 13:37                                           ` William Kenworthy
2024-06-11  0:04                                   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-11  3:46                                     ` Dale
2024-06-04 10:19                 ` Dale
2024-06-04 11:32                   ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-04 12:03                     ` Dale
2024-06-04 13:19                       ` Rich Freeman
2024-06-03 10:02       ` byte.size226
2024-06-03 11:18         ` Dale
2024-06-03 11:07 ` [gentoo-user] " MasterP
2024-06-03 11:40   ` Wols Lists
2024-06-03 15:34     ` Dale
2024-06-04  7:59       ` Wols Lists
2024-06-03 23:45 ` [gentoo-user] " Frank Steinmetzger
2024-06-05 22:46 ` Mark Knecht
2024-06-06  3:54   ` Dale
2024-06-06 11:08     ` Michael
2024-06-06 16:36       ` Dale
2024-06-15  5:00 ` Dale

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