[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Norman Hakim]

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Hi,

Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with Gentoo Linux.

Thank you.

Regards,
Norman Hakim


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/6/1 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires me
> to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way to
> install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my pc is
> running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with Gentoo
> Linux.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Norman Hakim
>
>
> NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA

Norman,

I believe that's a really good project =).

Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".

Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.

Regards,

Ricardo Bevilacqua.


[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Mick]

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On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g. 
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.  This 
will allow you to multiboot into either OS.  A common data partition will 
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.  
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop, 
or different services if you want to.  Any questions just ask in this M/L, 
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Norman Hakim]

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>>By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with
 e.g. 
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.
  This 
will allow you to multiboot into either OS.  A common data partition
 will 
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.<<

HI,

Can u assist me or explain more detailed how do i shrink my MSWindows and
how do i create new partitions to install Gentoo so that i can do multiboot
into either os? and also about the common data partition.

Thanks.

Regards,
Norman



Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g. 
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.  This 
will allow you to multiboot into either OS.  A common data partition will 
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.  
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop, 
or different services if you want to.  Any questions just ask in this M/L, 
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
-- 
Regards,
Mick



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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> >>By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with
>
>  e.g.
> gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.
>   This
> will allow you to multiboot into either OS.  A common data partition
>  will
> allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.<<
>
> HI,
>
> Can u assist me or explain more detailed how do i shrink my MSWindows and
> how do i create new partitions to install Gentoo so that i can do multiboot
> into either os? and also about the common data partition.

Hi Norman,
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My way of shrinking MSWIndows OS partitions:

1. Move all data files from C:\ drive, where MSWindows usually saves files as 
a default (e.g. from My Documents, My Music, etc.), to a CD/DVD/fileserver.
2. Delete all *.tmp files under C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Local 
Settings\Temp, stale image files, etc.
3. Defragment the C:\ drive, reboot and defragment once more.
4. Use Gparted to shrink the C:\ drive partition to something between 12 to 
15GB.
5. Boot into MSWindows, which may well run chdisk - let it finish.  Then go to 
Administrative Tools/ Disk Manager and create a new data partition, but leave 
enough space on the disk for the Gentoo partitions (min 10G).  The new data 
partition can be formatted as ntfs or msdos.
6. Move all your data files from the CD/DVD/fileserver into the new partition.  
Change all MSWindows applications default paths to save their new files into 
your new data partition, instead of C:\ - otherwise you will soon run out of 
space on your C:\ drive.

For getting gparted go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php download 
the iso and burn a CD image.  If you would prefer using a LiveUSB and your PC 
can boot from a USB drive, then follow the link to the LiveUSB in the gparted 
website.

Then follow the Gentoo installation handbook for creating the Gentoo 
partitions while booted into the gparted LiveCD if you wish, or boot using 
the Gentoo LiveCD and use fdisk to create the new partitions exactly as the 
handbook describes.

Multibooting can be achieved in different ways.  If your linux installation is 
to become permanent then follow the Gentoo handbook to install Grub in the 
MBR of the hard disk and configure your /boot/grub/grub.conf as shown in the 
handbook for chainloading the WinXP OS.

Alternatively, if your MSWindows OS is permanent and your Linux installation 
is temporary, you will need to install Grub into the partition boot sector of 
your Linux OS (either the /boot partition, or if you do not use a separate 
boot partition then use your root partition) and follow the instructions 
under the section "Getting NTLDR to Load Linux" in this link: 
http://www.vsubhash.com/writeups/multiboot_os.asp

The link describes the LiLo boot manager, but the principles are the same as 
far as MSWindows is concerned.  You can google for "chainload Grub using 
NTLDR" or similar to find the same approach but using Grub as the linux boot 
manager.

HTH.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Norman Hakim]

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I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that i can install it.

I have no experience in installing any Linux Distro. =)

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g. 
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.  This 
will allow you to multiboot into either OS.  A common data partition will 
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.  
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop, 
or different services if you want to.  Any questions just ask in this M/L, 
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
-- 
Regards,
Mick



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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Matt Harrison]

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Norman Hakim wrote:
| I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current
| MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that
| i can install it.

Just follow the instructions in the install sections of the handbook,
and when it comes to the partitioning, just delete all the partitions
that are there before creating those for gentoo.

Of course I have to write that you need to be sure this is really what
you want, just in case.

I've just checked and there is a section on removing all partitions from
a disk in the handbook so you should be able to work it out :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Norman Hakim]

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Ok..I will try..Thanks mate! =)

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Norman Hakim wrote:
| I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current
| MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that
| i can install it.

Just follow the instructions in the install sections of the handbook,
and when it comes to the partitioning, just delete all the partitions
that are there before creating those for gentoo.

Of course I have to write that you need to be sure this is really what
you want, just in case.

I've just checked and there is a section on removing all partitions from
a disk in the handbook so you should be able to work it out :)

- --
Matt Harrison
iwasinnamuknow@genestate.com
http://blog.genestate.com
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.1

[Mick]

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On Friday 06 June 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> Ok..I will try..Thanks mate! =)

Please stop top-posting and sending HTML formatted messages with banners to 
this mailing list.

As I pointed to you before:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.0

[Norman Hakim]

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hi...I have one problem,after boot my Gentoo liveCD,after i chose to boot for the kernel and hardware,after the gui appeared and also progress bar until it finished boot the system,suddenly my monitor goes to standby mode,i'm wondering why is this happen. 

Thank you.

Regards,
Norman Hakim


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.0

[Mark Shields]

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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> hi...I have one problem,after boot my Gentoo liveCD,after i chose to boot
> for the kernel and hardware,after the gui appeared and also progress bar
> until it finished boot the system,suddenly my monitor goes to standby
> mode,i'm wondering why is this happen.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Norman Hakim
>
>
>     * NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA*
>
>
Sounds like a problem with it detecting your video card or your monitor.
I'd suggest doing the text-based install instead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.0

[Norman Hakim]

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Mark Shields <laebshade@gmail.com> wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:
 hi...I have one problem,after boot my Gentoo liveCD,after i chose to boot for the kernel and hardware,after the gui appeared and also progress bar until it finished boot the system,suddenly my monitor goes to standby mode,i'm wondering why is this happen. 
 
Thank you.

Regards,
Norman Hakim


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Sounds like a problem with it detecting your video card or your monitor.  I'd suggest doing the text-based install instead.

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- Mark Shields Because after my monitor turn to standby mode, after a few seconds there is a sound from my graphic card. How do i actually do the text-based install? from the  guideline handbook only show how to install by using gui.

Thank you

Norman


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 2007.0

[Mark Shields]

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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
> *Mark Shields <laebshade@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hi...I have one problem,after boot my Gentoo liveCD,after i chose to boot
>> for the kernel and hardware,after the gui appeared and also progress bar
>> until it finished boot the system,suddenly my monitor goes to standby
>> mode,i'm wondering why is this happen.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Norman Hakim
>>
>>
>>     * NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA*
>>
>
> Sounds like a problem with it detecting your video card or your monitor.
> I'd suggest doing the text-based install instead.
>
> --
> - Mark Shields
>
> Because after my monitor turn to standby mode, after a few seconds there is
> a sound from my graphic card. How do i actually do the text-based install?
> from the  guideline handbook only show how to install by using gui.
>
> Thank you
>
> Norman
>
>
>     * NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA*
>
>
You'll need the minimal install cd.  See:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2#doc_chap2-
the handbook covers both the liveCD install and the minimal cd
install.
Here's a link to the minimal cd for x86:
http://bouncer.gentoo.org/fetch/gentoo-2007.0-minimal/x86/ - or if you don't
use x86, see: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml

The text-based install is not automated like most of the gui installer. The
text-based install does not give you a bootable, gui-based system; you have
to build it yourself.  But I assure you, you will learn a lot more by doing
so, and you'll have a lean system built to the way you want it.  This used
to be the only method for any install until the gui installer came along.

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[gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services & kernel 2.6

[Norman Hakim]

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HI,

I've just installed my Gentoo 2007.0, and i want to enable the hald services before i can run the removable device aplication and i need to use kernel 2.6

Can anyone assists how to enable this services and how to load the kernel 2.6 so that i can connect my external harddisk.

Thanks,


Norman




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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services & kernel 2.

[Ward Poelmans]

2008/6/21 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:

> Can anyone assists how to enable this services and how to load the kernel
> 2.6 so that i can connect my external harddisk.

I don't understand what you ask? You can start hal with
"/etc/init.d/hald start" and with "rc-update add hald default" you can
make it start when the PC boots. The kernel will be load when you
start your system.

Ward
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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Norman Hakim]

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Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com> wrote:  2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :

> Can anyone assists how to enable this services and how to load the kernel
> 2.6 so that i can connect my external harddisk.

I don't understand what you ask? You can start hal with
"/etc/init.d/hald start" and with "rc-update add hald default" you can
make it start when the PC boots. The kernel will be load when you
start your system.

Ward
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Thank you. After i run this script "/etc/init.d/hald start" and with "rc-update add hald default" using in root and i connect my external harddisk,it detects my external but after i double click to open it,nothing happen,i cant open my external drive. 
   
  My questions from my previous  email was when i want to open Removable Media application there is a popup telling me that Volume Management is not supported and asked me to enable hald services. 
   
  Thank you.
   
  Norman


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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Ward Poelmans]

2008/6/21 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Thank you. After i run this script "/etc/init.d/hald start" and with
> "rc-update add hald default" using in root and i connect my external
> harddisk,it detects my external but after i double click to open it,nothing
> happen,i cant open my external drive.

By detected you mean what? You can see an icon on your desktop for
your external drive?
Run "mount" and "dmesg" see what it tell's ya.

> My questions from my previous  email was when i want to open Removable Media
> application there is a popup telling me that Volume Management is not
> supported and asked me to enable hald services.

Which desktop manager are you using? Gnome, KDE, xfce, ... ?
Do you have enfin rights? You need to member of certain groups (but i
can't remember which ones)
What does "id" tell you?

Ward
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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Norman Hakim]

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Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com> wrote: 2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :
> Thank you. After i run this script "/etc/init.d/hald start" and with
> "rc-update add hald default" using in root and i connect my external
> harddisk,it detects my external but after i double click to open it,nothing
> happen,i cant open my external drive.

By detected you mean what? You can see an icon on your desktop for
your external drive?
Run "mount" and "dmesg" see what it tell's ya.

> My questions from my previous  email was when i want to open Removable Media
> application there is a popup telling me that Volume Management is not
> supported and asked me to enable hald services.

Which desktop manager are you using? Gnome, KDE, xfce, ... ?
Do you have enfin rights? You need to member of certain groups (but i
can't remember which ones)
What does "id" tell you?

Ward
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Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen. Is it i have to Run "mount" and "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome desktop manager,the id stated is "1000". 

Before that, when i boot my liveCD during installation i booted using "gentoo nox". Actually can you explain bout "nox" because if i don't boot using "nox" there will be problem with my video card.

Thank you

Norman


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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Ward Poelmans]

2008/6/21 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen. Is
> it i have to Run "mount" and "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome desktop
> manager,the id stated is "1000".

So when you click, nothings happens? No error message?
"id" should tell you a bit more. It should be something like:
uid=501(user) gid=501(user) groups=501(user),80(admin)

To make automount work, you need to be a member of a couple of groups.

Ward
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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Norman Hakim]

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Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com> wrote:  2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :
> Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen. Is
> it i have to Run "mount" and "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome desktop
> manager,the id stated is "1000".

So when you click, nothings happens? No error message?
"id" should tell you a bit more. It should be something like:
uid=501(user) gid=501(user) groups=501(user),80(admin)

To make automount work, you need to be a member of a couple of groups.

Ward
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  When i click nothing happen & no error message.i've checked the id, my account is 1000, and my acc is a member of a few groups like portage,root,daemon. 
   
  What are the groups that i have to join so that i can make automount work?

   
  Regards,
  Norman


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 









       

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Pupino]

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2008/6/22 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:

>
>
> *Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> 2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :
>
> > Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen.
> Is
> > it i have to Run "mount" and "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome
> desktop
> > manager,the id stated is "1000".
>
> So when you click, nothings happens? No error message?
> "id" should tell you a bit more. It should be something like:
> uid=501(user) gid=501(user) groups=501(user),80(admin)
>
> To make automount work, you need to be a member of a couple of groups.
>
> Ward
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
> When i click nothing happen & no error message.i've checked the id, my
> account is 1000, and my acc is a member of a few groups like
> portage,root,daemon.
>
> What are the groups that i have to join so that i can make automount work?
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
>     * NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA*
>

Hi,
adding yourself to the "disk" group will give you acces to disk device and
adding to the "plugdev" group will grant you can use hald.
I think this should do the trick.
HTH
Davide

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Norman Hakim schrieb:
>> 
>> Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com> wrote:  2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :
>>> Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen. Is
>>> it i have to Run "mount" and "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome desktop
>>> manager,the id stated is "1000".
>> 
>> So when you click, nothings happens? No error message?
>> "id" should tell you a bit more. It should be something like:
>> uid=501(user) gid=501(user) groups=501(user),80(admin)
>> 
>> To make automount work, you need to be a member of a couple of groups.
>> 
>> Ward
>
> When i click nothing happen & no error message.i've checked the id, my
> account is 1000, and my acc is a member of a few groups like
> portage,root,daemon.
> 
> What are the groups that i have to join so that i can make automount
> work?

You need to be at least in the plugdev, cdrom, cdrw and usb groups to
take the advantage of hal and mount external devices.


PS: In addition to Micks recommendations. Can you please remove the
following when you reply with quotes to the list:

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Everything below "-- " will show up as a signature in email clients
which are aware of this. I was almost not able to see your replies
because they looked like a part of the signature. Furthermore the text
considered as signature is stripped by most email clients when replying.
I tried to reformat your mail so it looks correct.

And please stop sending html mails. Your messages look like a big mess
when viewing them in text format.

I strongly advise you to read this [1] careful again and follow the
recommendations or you wont get many answers to your questions if you
make them so hard to read for others.

Regards,

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Sun, 6/22/08, Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 9:30 AM
> Norman Hakim schrieb:
> >> 
> >> Ward Poelmans <wpoely86@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 2008/6/21 Norman Hakim :
> >>> Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after
> i click it nothing happen. Is
> >>> it i have to Run "mount" and
> "dmesg" using terminal? i'm using Gnome
> desktop
> >>> manager,the id stated is "1000".
> >> 
> >> So when you click, nothings happens? No error
> message?
> >> "id" should tell you a bit more. It
> should be something like:
> >> uid=501(user) gid=501(user)
> groups=501(user),80(admin)
> >> 
> >> To make automount work, you need to be a member of
> a couple of groups.
> >> 
> >> Ward
> >
> > When i click nothing happen & no error
> message.i've checked the id, my
> > account is 1000, and my acc is a member of a few
> groups like
> > portage,root,daemon.
> > 
> > What are the groups that i have to join so that i can
> make automount
> > work?
> 
> You need to be at least in the plugdev, cdrom, cdrw and usb
> groups to
> take the advantage of hal and mount external devices.


I have grouped it in the plugdev,cdrom,cdrw and usb groups but still i cant  
open my external drive and i've noticed that i also having problem to open 
my cdrom after i double click the icon nothing happen.

Can anyone help me regarding these problems.


      
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[gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

Hi all,

i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have group my user account to all these groups and i can see the icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these three drives.

Regards,

Norman 


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/6/26 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have group my user account to all these groups and i can see the icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these three drives.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norman


Norman,

Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might be a good
idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those drives
manually and see the result.


Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM
> 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have
> group my user account to all these groups and i can see the
> icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it
> nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these
> three drives.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Norman
> 
> 
> Norman,
> 
> Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might
> be a good
> idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those
> drives
> manually and see the result.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Richard.
> -- 

Richard,

Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u explain to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually?

Thanks.

Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Eduardo Otubo]

Norman,

First understand one thing: The terminal is always a good friend :-)
Second, let's explain the fstab: Fstab (filesystem table) is a table
with all the specification for you filesystem. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab. To check the content of fstab just
type this on you terminal:

$ cat /etc/fstab

(and paste here the result of this command)

Third, to mount manually a device, you need to know first which device
is what on your Linux. Usually, cdrom is some /dev/hdc thing. Then, to
mount it:

$ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom

The strange things is: How did you installed gentoo without knowing
this issues? :-)

Hope this 2 cents helps you.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Norman Hakim
<desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM
>> 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have
>> group my user account to all these groups and i can see the
>> icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it
>> nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these
>> three drives.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Norman
>>
>>
>> Norman,
>>
>> Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might
>> be a good
>> idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those
>> drives
>> manually and see the result.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard.
>> --
>
> Richard,
>
> Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u explain to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
>
> --
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>
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Eduardo Otubo <eduardo.otubo@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Eduardo Otubo <eduardo.otubo@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:04 AM
> Norman,
> 
> First understand one thing: The terminal is always a good
> friend :-)
> Second, let's explain the fstab: Fstab (filesystem
> table) is a table
> with all the specification for you filesystem. Check this
> out:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab. To check the content of
> fstab just
> type this on you terminal:
> 
> $ cat /etc/fstab
> 
> (and paste here the result of this command)
> 
> Third, to mount manually a device, you need to know first
> which device
> is what on your Linux. Usually, cdrom is some /dev/hdc
> thing. Then, to
> mount it:
> 
> $ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
> 
> The strange things is: How did you installed gentoo without
> knowing
> this issues? :-)
> 
> Hope this 2 cents helps you.
> 

Eduardo,

I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:

/dev/hda1          /boot    ext2    defaults         1  2
/dev/hda2          none             swap      s  w         0  0
/dev/hda3          /        ext3    noatime          0  1
none             /proc     proc    defaults   0  0
none             /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0

Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using the handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first time using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.

Regards,
Norman






      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/6/28 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Eduardo,
>
> I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:
>
> /dev/hda1          /boot    ext2    defaults         1  2
> /dev/hda2          none             swap      s  w         0  0
> /dev/hda3          /        ext3    noatime          0  1
> none             /proc     proc    defaults   0  0
> none             /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0
>
> Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using the handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first time using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.
>
> Regards,
> Norman

Norman,

I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact
with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo
system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!

I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file
because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference
to install this distribution.

As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually
created a text file under "/etc" called "fstab". This simple text file
contains all the necessary information to, let's say "auto-mount" your
different devices.

This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
/dev/hdc1		/boot		        ext2		defaults,noatime	                        1 2
/dev/hdc3		/		        reiserfs	noatime			                0 1
/dev/hdc2		none		        swap		sw			                        0 0
/dev/cdrom	/mnt/cdrom	auto		noauto,ro,user		                0 0
/dev/floppy/fd0	/mnt/floppy	auto		noauto,rw,user	             	        0 0
/dev/hda1		/mnt/RIC	        vfat		defaults,noatime,user	                0 0
/dev/hdb2		/mnt/ZERO	vfat		defaults,noatime,user	                0 0
/dev/sda1		/mnt/USB	        auto		noauto,rw,user

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
proc			/proc		        proc		defaults		                        0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm			/dev/shm	        tmpfs        nodev,nosuid,noexec	                0 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Usually, adding this

"/dev/cdrom	/mnt/cdrom	auto		noauto,ro,user		                0 0"

should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =).

If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out
something else. If it does work, then great! go on  enjoying Gentoo
Linux.

You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the
chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you
always have control over your own system, that is very important.

Regards,

Ricardo.
(Richard)


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[Cristian Gary]

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are you in the group plugdev ??



On 6/29/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2008/6/28 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
>
> > Eduardo,
> >
> > I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:
> >
> > /dev/hda1          /boot    ext2    defaults         1  2
> > /dev/hda2          none             swap      s  w         0  0
> > /dev/hda3          /        ext3    noatime          0  1
> > none             /proc     proc    defaults   0  0
> > none             /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0
> >
> > Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using
> the handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first
> time using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman
>
>
> Norman,
>
> I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact
> with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo
> system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!
>
> I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file
> because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference
> to install this distribution.
>
> As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually
> created a text file under "/etc" called "fstab". This simple text file
> contains all the necessary information to, let's say "auto-mount" your
> different devices.
>
> This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> /dev/hdc1               /boot
> ext2            defaults,noatime                                1 2
> /dev/hdc3               /
> reiserfs        noatime                                 0 1
> /dev/hdc2
> none                    swap            sw                                              0
> 0
> /dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,ro,user                          0
> 0
> /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> auto            noauto,rw,user                          0 0
> /dev/hda1
> /mnt/RIC                vfat            defaults,noatime,user
> 0 0
> /dev/hdb2               /mnt/ZERO
> vfat            defaults,noatime,user                   0 0
> /dev/sda1
> /mnt/USB                auto            noauto,rw,user
>
> # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
> proc                    /proc
> proc            defaults                                        0 0
>
> # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
> # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
> # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
> #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
> shm
> /dev/shm                tmpfs        nodev,nosuid,noexec                        0
> 0
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Usually, adding this
>
> "/dev/cdrom
> /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,ro,user                          0 0"
>
> should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =).
>
> If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out
> something else. If it does work, then great! go on  enjoying Gentoo
> Linux.
>
> You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the
> chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you
> always have control over your own system, that is very important.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo.
> (Richard)
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8
>
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>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Philip Webb]

080629 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/28 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
>> this is my first time using Linux
>> and i never have any experience using it before.
> First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo system
> without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!
-- useful advice snipped -- 
> Gentoo is the only distribution that gave me the chance
> to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible,
> you always have control over your own system, that is very important.

I can only echo the last 3 lines & add my own sense of awe
that anyone new to Linux got Gentoo running at the 1st shot !

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

> > Norman,
> >
> > I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your
> first contact
> > with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having
> a working Gentoo
> > system without any previous Linux knowledge is a
> terrific start!
> >
> > I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to
> modify that file
> > because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which
> is the reference
> > to install this distribution.
> >
> > As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you
> manually
> > created a text file under "/etc" called
> "fstab". This simple text file
> > contains all the necessary information to, let's
> say "auto-mount" your
> > different devices.
> >
> > This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:
> >
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > /dev/hdc1               /boot
> > ext2            defaults,noatime                      
>          1 2
> > /dev/hdc3               /
> > reiserfs        noatime                               
>  0 1
> > /dev/hdc2
> > none                    swap            sw            
>                                  0
> > 0
> > /dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom      auto           
> noauto,ro,user                          0
> > 0
> > /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> > auto            noauto,rw,user                        
>  0 0
> > /dev/hda1
> > /mnt/RIC                vfat           
> defaults,noatime,user
> > 0 0
> > /dev/hdb2               /mnt/ZERO
> > vfat            defaults,noatime,user                 
>  0 0
> > /dev/sda1
> > /mnt/USB                auto            noauto,rw,user
> >
> > # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
> > proc                    /proc
> > proc            defaults                              
>          0 0
> >
> > # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at
> /dev/shm for
> > # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
> > # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable
> ramdisk, and will
> > #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
> > shm
> > /dev/shm                tmpfs       
> nodev,nosuid,noexec                        0
> > 0
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Usually, adding this
> >
> > "/dev/cdrom
> > /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,ro,user        
>                  0 0"
> >
> > should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working
> =).
> >
> > If that does not work, then let us know and see if we
> can figure out
> > something else. If it does work, then great! go on 
> enjoying Gentoo
> > Linux.
> >
> > You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution
> that gave m the
> > chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable
> and flexible, you
> > always have control over your own system, that is very
> important.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ricardo.
> > (Richard)
> >
> >
> > [1]
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8
> >
> > --

Cristian Gary,
i've grouped it into plugdev.

Richard,

After i type this command "/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0" it shows:

                bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied
i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup "The permisions could not be changed"



Regards,
Norman






      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Eduardo Otubo]

Hi again,

In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to
learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
But, back to the problem:

Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and
paste the output here:

# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

[]'s

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Norman Hakim
<desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Norman,
>> >
>> > I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your
>> first contact
>> > with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having
>> a working Gentoo
>> > system without any previous Linux knowledge is a
>> terrific start!
>> >
>> > I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to
>> modify that file
>> > because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which
>> is the reference
>> > to install this distribution.
>> >
>> > As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you
>> manually
>> > created a text file under "/etc" called
>> "fstab". This simple text file
>> > contains all the necessary information to, let's
>> say "auto-mount" your
>> > different devices.
>> >
>> > This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > /dev/hdc1               /boot
>> > ext2            defaults,noatime
>>          1 2
>> > /dev/hdc3               /
>> > reiserfs        noatime
>>  0 1
>> > /dev/hdc2
>> > none                    swap            sw
>>                                  0
>> > 0
>> > /dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom      auto
>> noauto,ro,user                          0
>> > 0
>> > /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>> > auto            noauto,rw,user
>>  0 0
>> > /dev/hda1
>> > /mnt/RIC                vfat
>> defaults,noatime,user
>> > 0 0
>> > /dev/hdb2               /mnt/ZERO
>> > vfat            defaults,noatime,user
>>  0 0
>> > /dev/sda1
>> > /mnt/USB                auto            noauto,rw,user
>> >
>> > # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
>> > proc                    /proc
>> > proc            defaults
>>          0 0
>> >
>> > # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at
>> /dev/shm for
>> > # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
>> > # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable
>> ramdisk, and will
>> > #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
>> > shm
>> > /dev/shm                tmpfs
>> nodev,nosuid,noexec                        0
>> > 0
>> >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Usually, adding this
>> >
>> > "/dev/cdrom
>> > /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,ro,user
>>                  0 0"
>> >
>> > should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working
>> =).
>> >
>> > If that does not work, then let us know and see if we
>> can figure out
>> > something else. If it does work, then great! go on
>> enjoying Gentoo
>> > Linux.
>> >
>> > You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution
>> that gave m the
>> > chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable
>> and flexible, you
>> > always have control over your own system, that is very
>> important.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Ricardo.
>> > (Richard)
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8
>> >
>> > --
>
> Cristian Gary,
> i've grouped it into plugdev.
>
> Richard,
>
> After i type this command "/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0" it shows:
>
>                bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied
> i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup "The permisions could not be changed"
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/6/30 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Cristian Gary,
> i've grouped it into plugdev.
>
> Richard,
>
> After i type this command "/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0" it shows:
>
>                bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

Actually, the line

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

is what you need to add to "/etc/fstab" to get your cdrom working.
Sorry if I did not express myself correctly.


> i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup "The permisions could not be changed"
>

Well, you can not change permissions to read and write, because the
cdrom is a read-only media. Yes, I know you are able to burn a CD or a
DVD, but it is not considered as writable media and it is mounted as a
read-only file system.

Just try by adding that line to your fstab, and if that does not work,
then try to mount it manually as Eduardo Otubo says:

# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

And post the output here.

>
> Regards,
> Norman

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Mick]

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On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to
> learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
> But, back to the problem:
>
> Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and
> paste the output here:
>
> # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>
> Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

Or:

$ dmesg | grep CD

and:

$ ls -la /dev/cd*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
> On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
> person who wants to
> > learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
> > But, back to the problem:
> >
> > Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
> manually and
> > paste the output here:
> >
> > # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> >
> > Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)
> 
> Or:
> 
> $ dmesg | grep CD
> 
> and:
> 
> $ ls -la /dev/cd*
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick

Dear Mick & Richard,

This is the output after i mount it manually:

 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Eduardo Otubo]

Well,

I think you did it, man!
Just check out your /mnt/cdrom and see if your files are there :-)

[]'s

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Norman Hakim
<desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
>> On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
>> > Hi again,
>> >
>> > In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
>> person who wants to
>> > learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
>> > But, back to the problem:
>> >
>> > Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
>> manually and
>> > paste the output here:
>> >
>> > # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>> >
>> > Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> $ dmesg | grep CD
>>
>> and:
>>
>> $ ls -la /dev/cd*
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mick
>
> Dear Mick & Richard,
>
> This is the output after i mount it manually:
>
>  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
>
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>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/2 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
>
>
> NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Dear Mick & Richard,
>
> This is the output after i mount it manually:
>
>  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only
>
> Regards,
> Norman

Norman,

Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is just a
warning, and it is only extra information that the "mount" command
shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.

That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that your cdrom is
a read-only media.

If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
add this line to your /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

And that should work just fine.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
> If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
> add this line to your /etc/fstab:
>
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to 
guess the filesystem type.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>:
> Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
>> If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
>> add this line to your /etc/fstab:
>>
>> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0
>
> Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to
> guess the filesystem type.
>
> Bye...
>
>        Dirk
>

Dirk,

Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
format.


Regards,

Richard.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
> I am
> sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
> sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
> the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

Yes, what I wrote what "auto" is for. "mount" will find out wether the media 
is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted 
automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Eduardo Otubo]

In fact,

To we get those things really automactly mounted, we need to install
and configure 'ivman' and 'hald'. For those who speaks portuguese I
have a great tutorial writen by a friend of mine:
http://nottooamused.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/montando-dispositivos-automaticamente-no-gnulinux/

[]'s

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
>> I am
>> sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
>> sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
>> the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
>
> Yes, what I wrote what "auto" is for. "mount" will find out wether the media
> is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
> automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.
>
> Bye...
>
>        Dirk
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>:
> Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
>> I am
>> sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
>> sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
>> the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
>
> Yes, what I wrote what "auto" is for. "mount" will find out wether the media
> is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
> automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.
>
> Bye...
>
>        Dirk
>

Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Dale]

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>:
>   
>> Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
>>     
>>> I am
>>> sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
>>> sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
>>> the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
>>>       
>> Yes, what I wrote what "auto" is for. "mount" will find out wether the media
>> is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
>> automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.
>>
>> Bye...
>>
>>        Dirk
>>
>>     
>
> Dirk,
>
> Sorry, I had misunderstood.
>
> But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
> and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.
>
> I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>   

Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of 
something else.  Also check for ivman as well.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/2 Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net>:
> Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
>>
>> Dirk,
>>
>> Sorry, I had misunderstood.
>>
>> But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
>> and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.
>>
>> I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>
> Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of
> something else.  Also check for ivman as well.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
> --

Dale,

Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It
seems that it is.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ricardo Bevilacqua <rus.spes@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:49 AM
> 2008/7/2 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
> >
> > Dear Mick & Richard,
> >
> > This is the output after i mount it manually:
> >
> >  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected,
> mounting read-only
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman
> 
> Norman,
> 
> Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is
> just a
> warning, and it is only extra information that the
> "mount" command
> shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.
> 
> That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that
> your cdrom is
> a read-only media.
> 
> If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a
> cd, just
> add this line to your /etc/fstab:
> 
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0
> 
> And that should work just fine.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Richard.
> -- 

Richard,

I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?


Regards,
Norman





      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> Richard,
>
> I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:
>
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0
>
> i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what
> command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?

These days it's much more common to let the desktop do that step for 
you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all references to 
cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent mounts for 
disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on your 
desktop when you insert a usb drive.

This works because fstab has no special qualities - it's just a list of 
standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer.

What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
> Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
> sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
> sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
> the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
> format.

It only works if mount can figure out what the actual fs is at mount 
time. It does this by examining all known variations on the idea of a 
superblock. As long as a sane fs is in use, mounts invariably figures 
it out correctly.

btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:44 AM
> On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:
> >
> > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto    
>  noauto,ro,user     0 0
> >
> > i will paste it the output here if error occur. And
> about usb,what
> > command should i add so that i can mount my
> thumbdrive?
> 
> These days it's much more common to let the desktop do
> that step for 
> you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all
> references to 
> cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent
> mounts for 
> disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on
> your 
> desktop when you insert a usb drive.
> 
> This works because fstab has no special qualities -
> it's just a list of 
> standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer.
> 
> What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either
> gnome or kde
> 
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> 
> --

I'm using gnome desktop


Regadrds,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Joerg Schilling]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs

Wrong:

UDF is just one filesystem amongst others and ISO-9660 is a general standard.

In special: Video DVD players do not even need to understand  UDF at all. They 
just search the first 1000 sectors for the *.IFO file signature and depend on 
the internal IFO structures.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Dale]

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/7/2 Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net>:
>   
>> Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
>>     
>>> Dirk,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I had misunderstood.
>>>
>>> But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
>>> and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.
>>>
>>> I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
>>>       
>> Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of
>> something else.  Also check for ivman as well.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>> --
>>     
>
> Dale,
>
> Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It
> seems that it is.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>   

 From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount a 
CD, DVD, etc.  I use hal and ivman myself.  I think supermount or 
something like that was another way but if I recall correctly supermount 
has sort of fell off the map.

Someone correct me if I am wrong here.  It's been a while and sort of 
missed a lot of changes.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Norman Hakim]

Hi,

I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto    
   noauto,ro,user     0 0 and this is the output:

bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to solve this problem.



Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto
>    noauto,ro,user     0 0 and this is the output:
>
> bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

What command produced this error, and what user did you run it as? 
(whoami will tell you this if you are not certain if you are root or 
not). Then run the id command with the name of that user as argument 
and post the output back here.

Chances are you are doing it as a regular user who is not a member of 
the plugdev group

> If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how
> i want to solve this problem.

What command do you use to mount it manually, and as what user?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Dale wrote:
>  From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount
> a CD, DVD, etc.  I use hal and ivman myself.  I think supermount or
> something like that was another way but if I recall correctly
> supermount has sort of fell off the map.

supermount was a Mandrake app and it has indeed fallen off the map. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> > What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either
> > gnome or kde
> >
> > --
> > Alan McKinnon
> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> >
> > --
>
> I'm using gnome desktop

When you insert a CD, do you get an icon on the desktop that you can 
double click?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/3 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto
>   noauto,ro,user     0 0 and this is the output:
>
> bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied
>
> If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to solve this problem.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Norman

Norman,

I guess that when you mounted manually, you did it as root.

Linux is very safe, and won't let you do anything if you do not have permission.

To set which user can and can not do certain things, there is
something called "groups".

Your user belongs to a group, and then it can do certain things, like,
for example, accessing your cdrom, playing audio, using usb, etc.

You can see a good explanation of this at chapter 11 of the Gentoo Handbook [1].

So, my guess is that when you created your user for daily use, you did
not include it in the "cdrom" group. Just type:

$ groups

As user to see which groups is your user in.

For example, this is my user and the groups it belongs to:

ric@tux ~ $ groups
wheel floppy audio cdrom video games usb portage plugdev ric

If you want to add your user to a new group, for example cdrom, do the
following:

1 - Check which groups you already belong with:
$ groups

(NOTE: you can skip this step, but it is useful to know which groups
are you already in.)

2- Log in as root.

3- Add your user to a new group with:

# usermod -a -G [goups] [user]

For this example, supposing your user is "norman" and you want to add
it to the cdrom group then:

# usermod -a -G cdrom norman


And that should be all.

Regards,

Richard.


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[gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Norman Hakim]

Hai all,

Is it normal after gentoo installation we have to mount the cdrom or even thumbdrive manually? Actually i'm still having problem until now, i have grouped my user account into cdrom,cdrw,usb,plugdev but i cant automount my cdrom. But if i mount it manually there is no problem at all.

if i type these commands:
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0

the output will be:
bash: /dev/cdrom Permission denied

And also even if type these commands:
/dev/cdrom

the output will be still the same.

I'm out of idea how to make it works. And i more question how do i mount my thumbdrive?



Thank you.

Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Norman Hakim:

> Is it normal after gentoo installation we have to mount the cdrom or even
> thumbdrive manually? Actually i'm still having problem until now, i have
> grouped my user account into cdrom,cdrw,usb,plugdev but i cant automount my
> cdrom. But if i mount it manually there is no problem at all.

How do you do this, then?

> if i type these commands:
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0

This is not a command, it's a line which should be put into /etc/fstab.

> the output will be:
> bash: /dev/cdrom Permission denied

Sure, see above.

> And also even if type these commands:
> /dev/cdrom

dito.

> the output will be still the same.

Yes, see above. First put the line above into /etc/fstab, then 
type "mount /mnt/cdrom".

> I'm out of idea how to make it works. And i more question how do i mount my
> thumbdrive?

Just the same. Replace "cdrom" with whatever matches your thumbdrive, examine 
output of "dmesg" a few seconds after plugging it in.

HTH...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:

> From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:38 AM
> Am Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Norman Hakim:
> 
> > Is it normal after gentoo installation we have to
> mount the cdrom or even
> > thumbdrive manually? Actually i'm still having
> problem until now, i have
> > grouped my user account into cdrom,cdrw,usb,plugdev
> but i cant automount my
> > cdrom. But if i mount it manually there is no problem
> at all.
> 
> How do you do this, then?
> 
> > if i type these commands:
> > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0
> 
> This is not a command, it's a line which should be put
> into /etc/fstab.
> 
> > the output will be:
> > bash: /dev/cdrom Permission denied
> 
> Sure, see above.
> 
> > And also even if type these commands:
> > /dev/cdrom
> 
> dito.
> 
> > the output will be still the same.
> 
> Yes, see above. First put the line above into /etc/fstab,
> then 
> type "mount /mnt/cdrom".
> 
> > I'm out of idea how to make it works. And i more
> question how do i mount my
> > thumbdrive?
> 
> Just the same. Replace "cdrom" with whatever
> matches your thumbdrive, examine 
> output of "dmesg" a few seconds after plugging it
> in.
> 
> HTH...
> 
> 	Dirk


Dear Dirk,

ok, but then how do i put tose lines into /etc/fstab? Actually i'm a newbie to gentoo linux.


Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Hong Hao]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09:24AM -0700, Norman Hakim wrote:
> 
> 
> NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:38 AM
> > Am Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Norman Hakim:
> > 
> > > Is it normal after gentoo installation we have to
> > mount the cdrom or even
> > > thumbdrive manually? Actually i'm still having
> > problem until now, i have
> > > grouped my user account into cdrom,cdrw,usb,plugdev
> > but i cant automount my
> > > cdrom. But if i mount it manually there is no problem
> > at all.
> > 
> > How do you do this, then?
> > 
> > > if i type these commands:
> > > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0
> > 
> > This is not a command, it's a line which should be put
> > into /etc/fstab.
> > 
> > > the output will be:
> > > bash: /dev/cdrom Permission denied
> > 
> > Sure, see above.
> > 
> > > And also even if type these commands:
> > > /dev/cdrom
> > 
> > dito.
> > 
> > > the output will be still the same.
> > 
> > Yes, see above. First put the line above into /etc/fstab,
> > then 
> > type "mount /mnt/cdrom".
> > 
> > > I'm out of idea how to make it works. And i more
> > question how do i mount my
> > > thumbdrive?
> > 
> > Just the same. Replace "cdrom" with whatever
> > matches your thumbdrive, examine 
> > output of "dmesg" a few seconds after plugging it
> > in.
> > 
> > HTH...
> > 
> > 	Dirk
> 
> 
> Dear Dirk,
> 
> ok, but then how do i put tose lines into /etc/fstab? Actually i'm a newbie to gentoo linux.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Norman
> 
> 
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echo "/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
or you could fire up your favorite editor.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Norman Hakim:

> ok, but then how do i put tose lines into /etc/fstab?

By using your favorite text editor. Or with the "echo" command:

echo "/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0" >>/etc/fstab

This will append the line to the file, but be careful, it must be ">>". If you 
miss one and type ">" the file will be overwritten and the previous contents 
are lost.

> Actually i'm a newbie to gentoo linux.

In this case, it may be a good idea to read through
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html

and, since you did a full quote when replying to my mail, reading 
http://learn.to/quote would also be nice.

HTH...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:09:24 -0700 (PDT), Norman Hakim wrote:

> ok, but then how do i put tose lines into /etc/fstab? Actually i'm a
> newbie to gentoo linux.

You have already edited /etc/fstab during installation, the procedure is
exactly the same.

nano -w /etc/fstab

Which desktop are you using? KDE handles this automatically, for anything
else you should install ivman.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting problem

[Norman Hakim]

 
> Which desktop are you using? KDE handles this
> automatically, for anything
> else you should install ivman.
> 

I'm using GDM. 

To Dirk,

I will read the 2 links that u had given and any problems i will let you know.

Thank you.

Regards,
Norman


      
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[gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Norman Hakim]

Hi all,

I have problem regarding mounting my usb thumbdrive. I have tried to add this line to /etc/fstab:

echo "/dev/usb /mnt/usb auto noauto,rw,user" >>/etc/fstab

After i mount it:
mount /dev/usb

It shows there is no mount point for /dev/usb

I wonder is it this is the correct line that i should put into /etc/fstab?

Or should i post the output of dmesg here?


Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Norman Hakim]

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:56 PM
> Hi all,
> 
> I have problem regarding mounting my usb thumbdrive. I have
> tried to add this line to /etc/fstab:
> 
> echo "/dev/usb /mnt/usb auto noauto,rw,user"
> >>/etc/fstab
> 
> After i mount it:
> mount /dev/usb
> 
> It shows there is no mount point for /dev/usb
> 
> I wonder is it this is the correct line that i should put
> into /etc/fstab?
> 
> Or should i post the output of dmesg here?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Norman
> 
> 
>       
> -- 
This is the output:

usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 2
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
usb-storage: device scan complete
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0


Regards,
Norman









      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have problem regarding mounting my usb thumbdrive. I have tried to
> add this line to /etc/fstab:
>
> echo "/dev/usb /mnt/usb auto noauto,rw,user" >>/etc/fstab

Do you have a "file" called /dev/usb ?

On my system they have longer names.

What does 
  ls /dev/usb*
show?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Norman Hakim]

> Do you have a "file" called /dev/usb ?
> 
> On my system they have longer names.
> 
> What does 
>   ls /dev/usb*
> show?
> 
> allan
> -- 
It shows:

/dev/usbdev1.1_ep00  /dev/usbdev1.2_ep81  /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81
/dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00  /dev/usbdev4.1_ep00
/dev/usbdev1.2_ep00  /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81  /dev/usbdev4.1_ep81
/dev/usbdev1.2_ep02  /dev/usbdev3.1_ep00


Regards,
Norman


      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Andrew Tchernoivanov]

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>SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
>sda: Write Protect is off
>sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
>sda: assuming drive cache: write through
>SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
>sda: Write Protect is off
>sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
>sda: assuming drive cache: write through
> sda: sda1

According to this if  you want to mount tour USB drive, you should use
/dev/sda1 instead of /dev/usb

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
> > Do you have a "file" called /dev/usb ?
> >
> > On my system they have longer names.
> >
> > What does
> >   ls /dev/usb*
> > show?
> >
> > allan
> > --
> It shows:
>
> /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00  /dev/usbdev1.2_ep81  /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81
> /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00  /dev/usbdev4.1_ep00
> /dev/usbdev1.2_ep00  /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81  /dev/usbdev4.1_ep81
> /dev/usbdev1.2_ep02  /dev/usbdev3.1_ep00
>
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Sebastian Günther]

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* Norman Hakim (desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com) [19.07.08 06:24]:

> > From: Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:56 PM
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have problem regarding mounting my usb thumbdrive. I have
> > tried to add this line to /etc/fstab:
> > 
> > echo "/dev/usb /mnt/usb auto noauto,rw,user"
> > >>/etc/fstab
> > 
> > After i mount it:
> > mount /dev/usb
> > 

No wonder, this device node is unknown to the system.

> > It shows there is no mount point for /dev/usb
> > 
> > I wonder is it this is the correct line that i should put
> > into /etc/fstab?
> > 
> > Or should i post the output of dmesg here?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Norman

> This is the output:
> 
> usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
> usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
> usb-storage: device found at 2
> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
> scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
> SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
> SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
>  sda: sda1

Here it states that it has the /dev/sda1 node

> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
> usb-storage: device scan complete
> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
> 
> 

So the correct line for fstab is left as an exercise.

And some warning in advance:
The device node may change if you use multiple thumbdrives.

For giving the thumbdrive a permanent node, refer to some HowTo on 
writing udev rules.

HTH
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 19 July 2008, Andrew Tchernoivanov wrote:
> >SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
> >sda: Write Protect is off
> >sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
> >sda: assuming drive cache: write through
> >SCSI device sda: 3973120 512-byte hdwr sectors (2034 MB)
> >sda: Write Protect is off
> >sda: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
> >sda: assuming drive cache: write through
> > sda: sda1
>
> According to this if  you want to mount tour USB drive, you should
> use /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/usb

That is likely to break if he puts two usb devices in the system and 
inserts them in the wrong order to what he usually does....

Rather mount by fs LABEL on the device or it's GUID. First column 
in /etc/fstab:

LABEL=MY_FS_LABEL
GUID=VERY_LONG_GUID_GOES_HERE

Personally, I feel fstab is the wrong place for pluggable filesystems. 
Rather use automounting daemons like ivman, or the desktop environment, 
for this purpose and leave only fixed disks in fstab that are not 
likely to change

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Sebastian Günther]

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* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckinnon@gmail.com) [19.07.08 09:19]:

> Rather mount by fs LABEL on the device or it's GUID. First column 
> in /etc/fstab:
> 
> LABEL=MY_FS_LABEL
> GUID=VERY_LONG_GUID_GOES_HERE
> 
> Personally, I feel fstab is the wrong place for pluggable filesystems. 
> Rather use automounting daemons like ivman, or the desktop environment, 
> for this purpose and leave only fixed disks in fstab that are not 
> likely to change
> 
but ivman does it in kind of a dumb manner:
plugin first usb drive -> mount point /mount/sda*
plugin second usb drive -> mount point /mount/sdb*
unplug both
plugin second usb drive -> mount point /mount/sda* !

This can get confusing, if do not always use GUIs.

If you give udev a rule to symlink the thumbdrive to something like 
/dev/first and add a line /dev/first /media/first, ivman will always use 
that mount point.

If you have your boot partition on a thumbdrive you will appriciate this 
behavior.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb problem

[Philip Webb]

080718 Norman Hakim wrote:
> I have problem regarding mounting my usb thumbdrive.
> I have tried to add this line to /etc/fstab: 
>   echo "/dev/usb /mnt/usb auto noauto,rw,user" >>/etc/fstab

I have '/dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb auto noauto,user,umask=000 0 0'.
This is ok as long as I use only 1 USB stick at the same time:
Udev creates  /dev/sdb1  when the stick is inserted
& would create  /dev/sdb2 etc  if there were  > 1 ,
so that would require additional lines in 'fstab'.

> After i mount it with 'mount /dev/usb'
> it shows there is no mount point for /dev/usb

I 'mount /dev/usb1 /mnt/usb' from the root command-line:
there is already a dir  /mnt/usb , which I created earlier,
& 'umask=000' in 'fstab' ensures I can access the stick as user.
Once I have mounted the stick like this,
I can read/write to it from my user's command-line or use Krusader with it.

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