From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7975D139085 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 01:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44331E0D34; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 01:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5E2E0CD7 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 01:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([208.167.254.19]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLR30-1cIyyW0RyE-000ZqX; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 02:58:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <2130813.6pNNqFFydK@thetick> Cc: marcec@gmx.de From: "Taiidan@gmx.com" Message-ID: <94e5d003-a2e1-13e4-e7cb-b37767cf68be@gmx.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:58:29 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2130813.6pNNqFFydK@thetick> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HbK8+c5x8HTUEH6NZmLVHkwZ+c71rLG1xBTDV9b3qiZdBRXsyys Shu0sFaDtom9zUW+E0g6clQhRp4aRjEOhBMEg51s/J2byOWdyn5WgWxyACbH8dlBT18ffT2 ZpR1JwtaSjmiZ3hapu+rE6+4qQoBAW+nahh58+O2Kq7mTsXyagDGgHhfFRe3mPDUUh+XXcQ aOOj57FCyywJq+0XFzyYQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:lmfXdNfKFIM=:JQneSkXkY9zBrWbKTpJb8b zX7YctiOZGSfn/JVbJzUFqSgDmBYNteK1IKBjqL+z6bq9ogEF2NJPhgCmY85Xlno23EcrCn8M BV41PHb94GaERmL1BiCtD6Jl6pc8p9swHaBL9Tq2Z8oAnPozFBShtjG08ak6skMiuwI7xK1TA RNmAIGeoLo9PjEeLoKHfjFwsanjvCBTsYUf9R7o0INy+gHuzE2oU0yW6xs7llC9mg8bCtxPcg bfgdqDuGL9Lsq64YBqo8OWxJdg0ND7KOalMy6DPeIpXKnj//vg2pqWIhOn9BH+q3VHfcUUrJw OceKGBcfTjaJxYwE6t/lvf59H/Nq/5maAGMkgGD2alTdW22MiBtkydhd3jjhKXzE4EkGXw9Jo yNh3IbuHTLeYQRc4R+1TK1W8xiQ/ROXBW1StIQemR+G+qzNRUuULVAaNk/mDRsMWKu5PUgUXT 7JuPvKn0wTTMhtzDxK6LwdgpvkIp5Skdt7JWSUtGtyS4TydfSqAAKx2Bw6AmB9fs5IHr2xUdi ItpDVDXwoP5jNC9tYFNQYU0vsg2p4ILe2lW9JIWOyqkK8Mv0NEwmhMHvnGIEmXq3XR1UFtZnC kDcaNc/1QLLo9BCh2o7L9swmQ/hjXQNY83EzNM/WSE+f/j52itevHwwumacr71rGkBsPQuZX7 KeqAY2uJz5laVrrD1a6YL0egldiM+E9JjgR4zmxmKse0YXHV2pgPvKZTE9H1p1Vk1I1G3WbZv HEbCsjleT6EHanPtG18EWQfz+r1fXqL4EmxDTpq37uy5E+RitpQ9MymzGAytQOPCSZ7AKiGSo HAm7dtf X-Archives-Salt: 9fe1ac22-325b-443b-b837-81de3e12d119 X-Archives-Hash: 4cb20c41b4f6bd119a5b1ed1fc5b8fcf On 12/17/2016 04:57 PM, Marc Joliet wrote: > On Saturday 17 December 2016 19:20:03 Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am 17.12.2016 um 15:58 schrieb Rich Freeman: > [...] >>> If you don't think the guides on how to install Gentoo on a Pi are >>> good enough, then play around with it until you figure it out, and >>> then post an article on the Wiki. >> Didn't you read my e-mail? I don't want to have Gentoo on my Pi, because >> this would destroy the advantage of the Pi, its low power consumption. >> >> Well, maybe I will install Gentoo on the Pi once, just for fun, but >> that's not the question here. > Looks like somebody hasn't heard of cross-compiling! Perhaps check out sys- > devel/crossdev and/or ask on the gentoo-embedded mailing list. In fact, in > this particular case I *will* provide you with a link: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Cross_building > >> I didn't ask for a howto for installing Gentoo on a Pi, I asked for a >> howto for getting rid of systemd on recent versions of Arch Linux, >> Debian, Raspbian, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. You said it's possible and I'm not >> forced to use systemd, so I guess you know how and can explain it to me. > Aha, so it's not enough that there are distros *right now* that let you avoid > systemd (e.g., Gentoo, Funtoo, Devuan, Knoppix), it has to be one of *those > particular* distros. > > [...] > > Viele Grüße Funtoo, knoppix and devuan are not serious professional grade distros, two of those are in beta and gentoo isn't something you want on most production servers. You can't be seriously suggesting that hobbyist distros with one or two developers and bad security policies is a serious replacement for the systemd corrupted distros can you? For some reason everyone in this thread also seems to be making this about sysvinit vs systemd rather than systemd vs sysvinit and openRC...