* [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
@ 2009-10-27 18:39 Grant
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo mailing list
depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
x11-base/xorg-server
selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
selected: 2.7.1
protected: none
omitted: none
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant
@ 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
What's listed in /var/lib/portage/world?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>
> x11-base/xorg-server
> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
> protected: none
> omitted: none
>
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
> selected: 2.7.1
> protected: none
> omitted: none
>
> - Grant
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant
2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 19:39:01 schrieb Grant:
> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>
> x11-base/xorg-server
> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
> protected: none
> omitted: none
>
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
> selected: 2.7.1
> protected: none
> omitted: none
Looks like you don't have anything installed which needs them. If you really
need xorg-server (means: if this is a desktop machine), you should add the
package to your world file.
HTH...
Dirk
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs
@ 2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Crístian Viana @ 2009-10-27 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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do you have xorg-server on /var/lib/portage/world?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>
> x11-base/xorg-server
> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
> protected: none
> omitted: none
>
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
> selected: 2.7.1
> protected: none
> omitted: none
>
> - Grant
>
>
--
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs
@ 2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant
2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
>> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>>
>> x11-base/xorg-server
>> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
>> protected: none
>> omitted: none
>>
>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
>> selected: 2.7.1
>> protected: none
>> omitted: none
>
> Looks like you don't have anything installed which needs them. If you really
> need xorg-server (means: if this is a desktop machine), you should add the
> package to your world file.
>
> HTH...
>
> Dirk
Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? I have many of them
in /var/lib/portage/world. For example, abiword, gnucash, and
gnumeric.
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant
@ 2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 20:00:57 schrieb Grant:
> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
another machine.
Bye...
Dirk
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs
@ 2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant
2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>
> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
> another machine.
>
> Bye...
>
> Dirk
Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant
@ 2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant
2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>
>> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
>> another machine.
>>
>> Bye...
>>
>> Dirk
>
> Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>
> - Grant
Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
does it provide?
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant
@ 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana
2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant
2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-27 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 21:20:17 Grant wrote:
> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
> >>
> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
> >> running on another machine.
> >>
> >> Bye...
> >>
> >> Dirk
> >
> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
> >
> > - Grant
>
> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
> does it provide?
xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
everything required to provide a full X server
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana
2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Crístian Viana @ 2009-10-27 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml:
You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more lightweight
xorg-server. Functionally, xorg-x11 and xorg-server are the same.
However, xorg-x11brings in many more packages that you probably don't need,
such as a huge assortment of fonts in many different languages. They're not
necessary for a working desktop.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 21:20:17 Grant wrote:
> > >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
> > >>
> > >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
> > >> running on another machine.
> > >>
> > >> Bye...
> > >>
> > >> Dirk
> > >
> > > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> > Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
> > does it provide?
>
> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
> everything required to provide a full X server
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>
--
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant
2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>>
>>> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
>>> another machine.
>>>
>>> Bye...
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>
>> Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>
>> - Grant
>
> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
> does it provide?
>
> - Grant
>
>
Depends. I use xorg-server on most of mine but if you want/need a mire
full X setup, more fonts, etc., then use xorg-x11.
You can always start with xorg-server and switch over later as the
server is a subset of the latter.
HTH,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana
@ 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant
2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman
2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>> >>
>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>> >> running on another machine.
>> >>
>> >> Bye...
>> >>
>> >> Dirk
>> >
>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>> >
>> > - Grant
>>
>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>> does it provide?
>
> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
> everything required to provide a full X server
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
emerge for xorg-x11:
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
USE="X -nls" 185 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
USE="X -nls" 150 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant
@ 2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman
2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Hartman @ 2009-10-27 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>> >> running on another machine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bye...
>>> >>
>>> >> Dirk
>>> >
>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>> >
>>> > - Grant
>>>
>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>>> does it provide?
>>
>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
> emerge for xorg-x11:
>
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
>
> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
I think if you don't use any of those other programs then you don't
need them, and if you install anything that needs them it'll pull them
in automatically. :) They're mostly low-level utilities. If your
system is working as-is then I don't think you'll be missing out on
anything by leaving it alone (after putting xorg-server into your
world file of course).
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant
2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht
2009-10-27 22:05 ` Grant
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>> >> running on another machine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bye...
>>> >>
>>> >> Dirk
>>> >
>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>> >
>>> > - Grant
>>>
>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>>> does it provide?
>>
>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
> emerge for xorg-x11:
>
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
>
> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
>
> - Grant
>
>
Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one
app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly,
play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I
don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much
trouble in terms of updates as they don't change.
Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and
hardly notice the difference.
- Mark
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-10-27 22:05 ` Grant
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>>> >> running on another machine.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bye...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dirk
>>>> >
>>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>>> >
>>>> > - Grant
>>>>
>>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>>>> does it provide?
>>>
>>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>>
>>> --
>>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>>
>> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
>> emerge for xorg-x11:
>>
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
>> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
>> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
>>
>> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
>> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
>
> Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one
> app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly,
> play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I
> don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much
> trouble in terms of updates as they don't change.
>
> Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and
> hardly notice the difference.
>
> - Mark
Sounds good, thanks everyone.
- Grant
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