From: Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:26:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9143358.CDJkKcVGEf@lenovo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2313990.ElGaqSPkdT@wstn>
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On Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:29:59 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be
> a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It
> isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
I've been using Kmail since the good ol' KDE3 days. Back then it worked at
least as good if not better than any other mail client I had tried. With the
move to KDE4, Kmail became the worse mail client I have ever used. I mean,
*catastrophically* worse! Both for the messages involved and for my nerves.
Initially I blamed sqlite, which I was using as its back end for a season, but
things were not much better with mysql. At some point I tried postgresql,
which was more robust. Over the years the code matured. For some years now,
Kmail is quite stable. There are still a couple of glitches with its GUI,
e.g. the columns width has a mind of its own and recently its Korganizer
sister application notifications cannot be snoozed for a short period of time,
but overall it works without any drama.
> Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but first
> I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox format.
Among many other email applications, I gave Claws a spin. A couple of months
later I abandoned it, because I ended up spending more time trying to bend it
out of shape to behave like Kmail (from keybindings, to layout, to
attachments, etc.) than I was spending using it. Soon, my attempts to change
its behaviour hit a wall of non-adjustable hardcoded features. I don't blame
Claws for this, rather my brain which had been accustomed to work with Kmail.
The mbox single file format is something I tried to move away from since the
90s, because as it grows in size it becomes more prone to corruption. Losing
one message may be tolerable, but losing the lot less so. Sure, backups exist
for a reason, but why accept architectural weaknesses if there is the more
modern alternative of maildir?
> Is
> it enough to run KMail's Import/Export Data tool to do this? It should be,
> on the face of it, but I'm suspicious (consider me paranoid if you like).
I'll echo the recommendation for dovecot, plus backup(s). If things go
sideways during your experiment, you can rinse and repeat. This is just good
practice.
That said, I have used the Kmail Import/Export data tool in the past to move
messages between Kmail and Thunderbird. It worked, but can't recall the
details.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-29 9:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-29 0:29 [gentoo-user] Email clients Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29 0:38 ` Jack
2023-07-29 2:37 ` Bryan Gardiner
2023-07-29 8:52 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 10:13 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-29 11:20 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 13:54 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-29 14:21 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 14:50 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-29 16:27 ` Wols Lists
2023-08-02 7:16 ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2023-07-29 5:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2023-07-30 12:07 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2023-07-30 12:25 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29 6:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-29 11:01 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29 11:23 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-30 19:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-30 22:53 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-30 23:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 7:34 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-31 12:33 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 13:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 16:03 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 16:25 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 17:26 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 18:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 18:17 ` Michael
2023-08-01 9:53 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-08-01 10:42 ` Michael
2023-08-01 16:56 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 17:57 ` Michael
2023-08-01 9:55 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 18:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 14:19 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-31 15:55 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-08-01 18:51 ` Wols Lists
2023-08-01 23:39 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29 9:26 ` Michael [this message]
2023-07-31 1:12 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 16:14 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 16:59 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 17:16 ` Alexe Stefan
2023-07-31 17:23 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 17:32 ` Kusoneko
2023-07-31 17:52 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-07-31 18:46 ` Kusoneko
2023-07-31 18:57 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 20:22 ` Grant Edwards
2023-07-31 20:24 ` David Rosenbaum
2023-07-31 19:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Laurence Perkins
2023-07-31 17:36 ` Jack
2023-07-31 17:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
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