From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FJSuk-0001wK-6L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:07:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2FA5IWq008832; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:05:18 GMT Received: from rackmounted.fligg.co.uk (rackmounted.fligg.co.uk [65.23.156.54]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2F9uttL003878 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:56:55 GMT Received: from host-84-9-204-15.bulldogdsl.com ([84.9.204.15]:24391 helo=[192.168.1.15]) by rackmounted.fligg.co.uk (port=587) with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 #1) id 1FJSmw-000122-00 by authid with plain_login for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:59:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <90335BF7-F25F-41A8-9AEE-D12C733EA549@midnightoker.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Midnight Toker Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] antivirus Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:56:42 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-DNSBL-SORBS: 84.9.204.15 in dnsbl.sorbs.net - Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?84.9.204.15 X-Archives-Salt: b95799b4-d8b0-47fc-a6cf-baac5cccbcea X-Archives-Hash: acca3175c00cb7b3a8470b7925f1a3d2 If you've been running without Anti Virus software for years now, how do you know the machines are clean of virus's? On 8 Mar 2006, at 20:24, Bob Young wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil [mailto:neil@ep.mine.nu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:23 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] antivirus > > Jarry wrote: > >> I got viruses many times. > > Over the past 20-odd years, I have had machines running many > versions of > DOS, all versions of Windows since Windows 286, all versions of OS/2 > since 1.3 and several distributions of Linux. I have never, ever > seen a > virus. I have to wonder what you are doing to be so "unfortunate". > > > Here, here. It's really not about the OS, or what "protection" > software is > or isn't installed, it's about the habits and practices of the > user. Any > computer can (and probably will) be compromised if the user is > careless or > naive about what they do and where they go on the Net. Like you, > I've run > different versions of DOS, Windows (NT derivatives only), OS/2, & > Linux. I > did get a virus once in the early days when running DOS, but since > then I've > never had a Windows or Linux box compromised by a virus or malware, > and > that's without running any anti-virus software of any kind on any > of the > Windows boxes. > > FWIW one of those Windows boxes is currently a web/email/DNS/FTP > server > with seven public IPs serving between four and seven domains. There > is also > a Gentoo Linux box doing secondary DNS for the domains, the windows > box has > a firewall but no AV software at all, both servers (one Windows & one > Gentoo), have remained clean and stable for several years now, as > do all of > my various Windows and Gentoo workstations, none of which run any > antivirus > software. > > In short if a user is getting infected a lot using Windows, > switching to > Linux is not curing the root cause. The basic problem is the user > needs to > understand what s/he is doing that's allowing malicious code to > execute on > their system and stop doing it. In the vast majority of Windows cases, > simply *not* routinely logging on with admin privileges would > probably stop > 99% plus of the infections. > > Regards, > Bob Young > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list