From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I6Mnr-0003X5-CI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:35:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l658XrAb006688; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:33:53 GMT Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l658TmVc001975 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:29:48 GMT Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so5127030pye for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:29:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bCRg0iUC4x0HViwJt+80IH3red9E5DNFbJ0v35QmvRqE447XU5CrIXK7zGZ60AvVa/c1p6jgYWwW7Q8QOxvCyy5490jxfGkFbX1zVeo2R5S3AnRrV9G3LLmzeZClWo+hgoZQsRdmDYlh266yju9JhNItazvVxIQsBF7W2aZ6Ym4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rUQN0ekH+Nl/U5MHCiBGzgihUe+PCCq7RVZrzslCsuidBx+9ZbVNTcnKzKjzKfxnGySVGC4pLxgjZ2D7ytWhTyMPnoP+wvkt6afpMPdJdP2kvgqW+Zs5vPX8V1SzYdWyiT4Pi5os2nYkt78l8pmsZ05j7zlcKqSPyiFVQGf3yWQ= Received: by 10.65.113.17 with SMTP id q17mr14097094qbm.1183624187775; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.15 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cd1ed20707050129y12e946deq9561c81b0caa04c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:29:47 +1200 From: "Kent Fredric" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) In-Reply-To: <20070705071049.GB5315@telos.xk7.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com> <59f9c5160707040133m46b6b592obcde11d2c1e0083d@mail.gmail.com> <20070705014010.GA26335@waltdnes.org> <20070705071049.GB5315@telos.xk7.net> X-Archives-Salt: deca8094-dd8d-40ab-baf5-0c2412626011 X-Archives-Hash: 3d5b2352181e092243f485f74cf25782 On 7/5/07, Paul Waring wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > emerge is along the same lines. "make menuconfig" is the limits of my > > expertise. I remember "RPM hell" with Redhat linux, trying to find an > > RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it > > against a bunch of stuff I didn't have. I can take a text-only basic > > system, "emerge gimp", and emerge will pull in and build, in the right > > order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc. I end up with a > > functional TWM "desktop". "emerge bbkeys" emerges blackbox > > key-controls... after first emerging blackbox. Try doing that with > > RPMs. > > What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years > ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same > goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of > my head). > > Paul > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > * Binary Dependency * No USE * Binary Dependency Breaks = No solution other than choose which of the 2 programs you want to lose. * Forceful ignorance of binary dependencies triggers stupid stuff like spontaneous removal of all of libc. ( i think thats the sort of headaches he was referring to with rpm-hell ) Conclusion on binary based distros: wait for upstream to fix. Conclusion on source based distros: you can fix it yourself, and today. I'd rather be able to have breakages I can work around ;) So not only is gentoo healthy, imo, its a very healthy test-bed for the whole world of OSS. -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print "enNOSPicAMreil kdrtf@gma.com"[(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}' -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list