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From: "Kent Fredric" <kentfredric@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:29:47 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cd1ed20707050129y12e946deq9561c81b0caa04c0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070705071049.GB5315@telos.xk7.net>

On 7/5/07, Paul Waring <paul@xk7.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >   emerge is along the same lines.  "make menuconfig" is the limits of my
> > expertise.  I remember "RPM hell" with Redhat linux, trying to find an
> > RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it
> > against a bunch of stuff I didn't have.  I can take a text-only basic
> > system, "emerge gimp", and emerge will pull in and build, in the right
> > order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc.  I end up with a
> > functional TWM "desktop".  "emerge bbkeys" emerges blackbox
> > key-controls... after first emerging blackbox.  Try doing that with
> > RPMs.
>
> What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years
> ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same
> goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of
> my head).
>
> Paul
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

* Binary Dependency
* No USE
* Binary Dependency Breaks = No solution other than choose which of
the 2 programs you want to lose.
* Forceful ignorance of binary dependencies triggers stupid stuff like
spontaneous removal of all of libc.

( i think thats the sort of headaches he was referring to with rpm-hell )

Conclusion on binary based distros:
    wait for upstream to fix.
Conclusion on source based distros:
    you can fix it yourself, and today.

I'd rather be able to have breakages I can work around  ;)

So not only is gentoo healthy, imo, its a very healthy test-bed for
the whole world of OSS.

-- 
Kent
ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x|
print "enNOSPicAMreil kdrtf@gma.com"[(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}'
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-05  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:07 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) Grant
2007-07-03 16:46 ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:14   ` Grant
2007-07-03 17:40     ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:41     ` Thierry de Coulon
2007-07-03 17:56       ` Jesús Guerrero
2007-07-03 22:00       ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-03 22:21       ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-03 22:39       ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:13     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-07-03 17:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2007-07-03 18:10 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:47 ` kashani
2007-07-03 19:36 ` Paul Gibbons
2007-07-04  2:46 ` Edgar Contreras
2007-07-04  6:51 ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-08 16:48   ` Grant
2007-07-08 18:15     ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-09 14:07       ` Galevsky
2007-07-12  1:06         ` Thufir
2007-07-08 21:02     ` Thufir
2007-07-04  8:27 ` Paul Waring
2007-07-04  8:33 ` Danyelle Gragsone
2007-07-04 12:03   ` Colleen Beamer
     [not found]     ` <20070705001359.GB4927@sympatico.ca>
     [not found]       ` <200707042047.07423.mcbrides9@comcast.net>
2007-07-05  1:44         ` Dale
2007-07-06 17:47         ` kashani
2007-07-07 10:11           ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-07 10:56             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-07 13:57               ` Dan Farrell
2007-07-07 16:29               ` david
2007-07-07 20:38               ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-07 14:12             ` Martin S
2007-07-07 14:16               ` Martin S
2007-07-07 16:53                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-07-08  9:58                   ` Martin S
2007-07-08 16:40           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
     [not found]   ` <20070705014010.GA26335@waltdnes.org>
2007-07-05  7:10     ` Paul Waring
2007-07-05  8:29       ` Kent Fredric [this message]
2007-07-05 13:59       ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-05  8:37     ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-05 11:04       ` David Relson
2007-07-06 10:12     ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2007-07-04  9:27 ` Guillermo Antonio Amaral Bastidas

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