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Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 09:45:58AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> On 2020-04-02, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oooooooo. <me wipes up the drool> That nvme speed is faaaasssssstttt.
>>>> Do you happen to have the OS on that and if so, just how fast does it go
>>>> from BIOS or Grub to bootup complete? I'm almost scared to ask. o_O
>>> I've been wondering if older fairly generic motherboards (7-8 years
>>> old) from the likes of Asrock would be able to boot from an NVMe card
>>> using a PCIe adapter like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/QNINE-Adapter-Express-Controller-Expansion/dp/B075MDH28Y
>>>
>>> I suspect not...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Grant
>> I have a Gigabyte 970 that is only a few years old and it doesn't
>> support it. I wish it did.
> Well, raw throughput is great ’n all, but in real-life you won’t notice much
> difference between a SATA and an NVME drive. The bottleneck quickly becomes
> the CPU again during boot or loading more complex applications (browser,
> office). The biggest improvement in those situation comes from the fast
> “seeking” and reading of many small files. HDDs are at a big disatvantage
> here due to their moving head and mechanical seeking.
>
> In fact I doubt you have many use cases for reading many gigabytes at a time
> over and over again every day without much CPU overhead, like video editing
> (loading previews in 4K or 8K), copying, archiving, checksumming and so on.
>
> Due to their immense speed, those NVMEs also tend to heat up quite a bit
> under load, eventually leading to throttling. So from a practical POV, and
> since you’re on a budget, I suggest cutting cost by staying with SATA.
>
Yea, I don't see me getting a nvme anyway. They kind of pricey. While
fast, I have more time than I do money. I do try to keep my rig in a
good place as far as age tho. I may try to upgrade my mobo in a couple
years but stick with my current CPU and memory. Mobos do go bad with
age, I've read about caps blowing their top and stinking up a room quite
well.
While I don't edit videos, I do have several terabytes of video. I
mostly just play them tho and they play fine with no skipping or
anything so what I got is plenty fast for that. I mostly just want the
OS itself on something faster but also newer since that HDD I have now
has some age on it.
I still find the nvmes interestingly fast. Wow!!
Dale
:-) :-)
P. S. My top fan in my Cooler Master HAF-932 case got stuck the other
day. It stopped spinning and gkrellm was kind enough to let me know
that. I took it out, oiled it good and it works fine again. I also
oiled the side fan and the front fan. I got some high dollar gun oil I
use for those. It's super slick, handles a wide range of temps and
lasts for ages. I've used it in several fans. Even my old CPU cooler
fan still runs. I replaced it over a year ago. I use the old one to
dry counter tops, dishes and cool batteries I'm charging.