From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LV2CR-0002VA-DN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:15:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 605B9E0453; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.158]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33976E0453 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id c31so438829poi.1 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:15:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Wof1dB98b2sRcLDqNfAS7phvyFxyi6n88pQ8Xiq6rA8=; b=NBbFHR0uceG+ylg+j0gNrGPc8ZKTxgvrGELbe8x+XVODvYq+Wdx2Ec8MH/KViYc1Yf IPAU3fo+NugbYjUKzqbfTlPsjI/Eg/HeLqDJa7nOSe1C0TyJ7rWHW50kT5tPVgL5E9un 0Yh8ZpWX8klXA9QIWLoiZpgxnkstCPT47ffAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=lYVCKjTFr1EknPZK/CpijhAos84sTf7f1otUzyJjOfnXxBT4sMOmREX+F9Z3HsD50I z0oQ5xJS7/kf6vbaxnLugsZDLDPXjksWzOD/cWIONFFFKKAtltJZAHGJzBoV2hAlhsH2 Zkq6hqGnVXJXK/udAaDgkpuHZURS7jVxybRfA= Received: by 10.140.139.3 with SMTP id m3mr264759rvd.77.1233832512172; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.107? ([119.95.246.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm1203776rvb.6.2009.02.05.03.15.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <89FCBD54-D9F9-41B3-8723-8221A2DE2DC6@gmail.com> From: Cocoy Dayao To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200902051201.38316.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:15:02 +0800 References: <200902050937.25810.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <200902051201.38316.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Archives-Salt: 4702fa0f-c1ef-4fe3-8fe6-579867751c2d X-Archives-Hash: c698fb3ec2aea601b1834efe7cf567bd my style has always been to get the minimal installer. chroot, install kernel to my specs then boot to hard drive, then start building it to how i want it built. the handbook is pretty specific and straight-forward. one just has to follow it. i've done N installs over the years and i still turn to the handbook, just to keep track. anyway. if people find the installer difficult.... maybe gentoo isn't for them. On 02 5, 09, at 7:01 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:. >> >>> I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate >>> in a >>> different manner to the way the thing will be used. >> >> Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the better. > > wrong. The installation needs a certain difficulty to keep idiots > away. Nobody > needs idiots (except maybe ubuntu). > yes, installation is VERY boring. that's part of the compromise, i guess. Cocoy www.twitter.com/cocoy "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware" -- Alan Kay