From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC62D138CC5 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DE68E0875; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.7]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33758E0866 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=wstn.localnet) by smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YZz53-000Dpf-9a for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:55:33 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: blockage Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:55:32 +0000 Message-ID: <8922155.XlnV4PMUkg@wstn> Organization: Society for Retired Gentlefolk User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (Linux/3.18.9-gentoo; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <550F3299.9090500@gmail.com> References: <87bnjl1zpq.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87k2y8zz03.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <550F3299.9090500@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-smarthost01d-IP: [82.69.80.10] X-Archives-Salt: a63fc314-61f2-4a33-9b43-e4d1e4e58c9a X-Archives-Hash: 0b0c690fa997a076c492cffeae08a8f6 On Sunday 22 March 2015 23:22:33 Alan McKinnon wrote: > This is one of the things that is starting to real get on my damn tits > about portage, for about 2 years now. It's not an easy problem to solve, > and to be honest, portage is not helping at all. You have two options in > running it: don't use -v and get very little info, or use -v and get a > terminal dump of the entire graph tree with lots of stuff and zero real > information about how to solve it. Look at my thread with Dale just the > other day, I managed to help him with the correct answer because I had a > magic brainwave to search for the "<" character. > > Seriously, what kind of process would ever use that as a problem solving > approach? > > In your case, the solution is in the ebuild for acpupsd and it's > specific DEPENDs. Now, I'm generally OK with looking in ebuilds for real > answers and have gotten used to it, but ffs I should not have to do > that. Well-written software should provide that information in it's > output, and it shouldn't be hard to get the software to do it. > > Ok, rant over. Sounds like you're volunteering, Alan. ;-) -- Rgds Peter.