[gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

[gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

[Douglas J Hunley]

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As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and the
use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all completions
are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you could turn each
individual one on/off either globally or per user. Anyone know what the new
'one true way' is here?

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

[Stefano Crocco]

On Wednesday 24 July 2013 Douglas J Hunley wrote
> As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and the
> use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all completions
> are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you could turn each
> individual one on/off either globally or per user. Anyone know what the new
> 'one true way' is here?
> 
> --
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There are a few bugs regarding this issue, for example: 472938, 476992 and 
477214. If I understand things correctly, all installed modules are enabled, 
but they're loaded "on-demand" (I guess this means the first time they're 
used, but I'm not sure). The way suggested in one of these bugs to have a 
working autocompletion is to source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion 
from you .bashrc file.

Stefano

Re: [gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

[Douglas J Hunley]

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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@alice.it>wrote:

>
> There are a few bugs regarding this issue, for example: 472938, 476992 and
> 477214. If I understand things correctly, all installed modules are
> enabled,
> but they're loaded "on-demand" (I guess this means the first time they're
> used, but I'm not sure). The way suggested in one of these bugs to have a
> working autocompletion is to source
> /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
> from you .bashrc file.
>
> Stefano
>
>
>
I agree w/ the user in 477214. This is completely broken. And the lack of
notice to the user post-emerge on how to set things up 'the new way' is
infuriating. Guess I'll add this to my 'check back in 6 months to see if
they've got it sorted' list

Thanks Stefano

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

[Stefano Crocco]

On Thursday 25 July 2013 Douglas J Hunley wrote
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Stefano Crocco 
<stefano.crocco@alice.it>wrote:
> > There are a few bugs regarding this issue, for example: 472938, 476992 and
> > 477214. If I understand things correctly, all installed modules are
> > enabled,
> > but they're loaded "on-demand" (I guess this means the first time they're
> > used, but I'm not sure). The way suggested in one of these bugs to have a
> > working autocompletion is to source
> > /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
> > from you .bashrc file.
> > 
> > Stefano
> 
> I agree w/ the user in 477214. This is completely broken. And the lack of
> notice to the user post-emerge on how to set things up 'the new way' is
> infuriating. Guess I'll add this to my 'check back in 6 months to see if
> they've got it sorted' list
> 
> Thanks Stefano
> 
> --
> Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley@gmail.com)
> Twitter: @hunleyd                                               Web:
> douglasjhunley.com
> G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3

I agree with you about the lack of a post-emerge message! I spent at least one 
hour the other day trying to understand why suddenly bash completion wasn't 
working anymore. I think all of this is still a work in progress, however, 
since the eselect package still installs the man page for the bashcomp module 
(bashcomp.eselect)!

Stefano

[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
> the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
> completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
> could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
> Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?

As others pointed out, you now need to:

   source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion

in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in 
/etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:

   ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/

Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like "emerge") will not be 
available.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[gottlieb]

On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
>> As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
>> the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
>> completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
>> could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
>> Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?
>
> As others pointed out, you now need to:
>
>   source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
>
> in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
> /etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:
>
>   ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/
>
> Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like "emerge") will not be
> available.

Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
/usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
   /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
   /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo

Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?

thanks,
allan

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[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 26/07/13 22:13, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
>>> As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
>>> the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
>>> completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
>>> could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
>>> Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?
>>
>> As others pointed out, you now need to:
>>
>>    source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
>>
>> in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
>> /etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:
>>
>>    ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/
>>
>> Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like "emerge") will not be
>> available.
>
> Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
> /usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
>     /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
>     /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo
>
> Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?

You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
completion files:

   emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

This is actually printed by app-shells/bash-completion when emerging it. 
If you don't do that, all the completion files are in the wrong 
directory. And yes, it will probably re-emerge *a lot* of packages, so 
you might want to do that while you're AFK.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Bruce Hill]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39:13AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> 
> You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
> completion files:
> 
>    emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

little syntax help:

emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:46:21 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:

> > You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
> > completion files:
> > 
> >    emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)  
> 
> little syntax help:
> 
> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[gottlieb]

On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:46:21 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
>
>> > You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
>> > completion files:
>> > 
>> >    emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)  
>> 
>> little syntax help:
>> 
>> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>
> emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion

Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.

allan

PS But my real problem is converting to systemd!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:49:46 -0400, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:

> >> >    emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)    
> >> 
> >> little syntax help:
> >> 
> >> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)  
> >
> > emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion  
> 
> Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.

Apparently, not all of us.


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[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 28/07/13 19:08, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:49:46 -0400, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
>
>>>>>     emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>>>>
>>>> little syntax help:
>>>>
>>>> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>>>
>>> emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion
>>
>> Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.
>
> Apparently, not all of us.

And apparently not even the Gentoo dev who put that message in the 
ebuild :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 28/07/2013 18:47, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 28/07/13 19:08, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:49:46 -0400, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
>>
>>>>>>     emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>>>>>
>>>>> little syntax help:
>>>>>
>>>>> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>>>>
>>>> emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion
>>>
>>> Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.
>>
>> Apparently, not all of us.
> 
> And apparently not even the Gentoo dev who put that message in the
> ebuild :-)
> 
> 


I'm still stumped about what this change is for or what it does.
And I've read all the bugs, all the posts here - still stumped.

I get a sense that it somehow has something to do with

make the ebuild $MORE_CLOSELY resemble the $BEHAVIOUR of $UPSTREAM_DEFAULT

Note the variables :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:47:38 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> >> Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.  
> >
> > Apparently, not all of us.  
> 
> And apparently not even the Gentoo dev who put that message in the 
> ebuild :-)

Is is portage 2.2 only? I don't have anything with portage 2.1 installed
to check.


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[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 28/07/13 21:25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:47:38 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>>>> Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago.
>>>
>>> Apparently, not all of us.
>>
>> And apparently not even the Gentoo dev who put that message in the
>> ebuild :-)
>
> Is is portage 2.2 only? I don't have anything with portage 2.1 installed
> to check.

Works with 2.1 from ~arch too. And it has for a while now; it's just 
something I used only once or twice and tend to forget about it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

[gottlieb]

On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Bruce Hill wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39:13AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> 
>> On 26/07/13 22:13, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>
>>>> As others pointed out, you now need to:
>>>>
>>>>    source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
>>>>
>>>> in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
>>>> /etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:
>>>>
>>>>    ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like "emerge") will not be
>>>> available.
>>>
>>> Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
>>> /usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
>>>     /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
>>>     /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo
>>>
>>> Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?
>>
>> You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash
>> completion files:
>>
>>   emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
>>
>> This is actually printed by app-shells/bash-completion when emerging
>> it. If you don't do that, all the completion files are in the wrong
>> directory. And yes, it will probably re-emerge *a lot* of packages, so
>> you might want to do that while you're AFK.
>
> little syntax help:
>
> emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

Thank you nikos and bruce.
allan