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* [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
@ 2008-03-15 16:10 Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 16:16 ` Chris Brennan
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Gustavo Campos @ 2008-03-15 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
that damned clutter messages it generates.

Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
the public key stuff and all xD

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Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:10 [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients Gustavo Campos
@ 2008-03-15 16:16 ` Chris Brennan
  2008-03-15 16:19   ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-16  7:12 ` Graham Murray
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chris Brennan @ 2008-03-15 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I dunno if gmail can ... but I am sure thunderbird has some ext. that
might be able to help. For me, I don't see it, GNUpg just tells TB that
the message has been signed and that I can retrieve the pubkey if I wish to.

Gustavo Campos wrote:
| I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
| actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
| that damned clutter messages it generates.
|
| Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
| singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
| to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
| the public key stuff and all xD
|
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFH2/ZH8hUIAnGfls4RAg+bAJ0Q1ys3kHnaFkwVi2uv6I8AqcyWwgCghl6u
lUbNufD8U9H6fGIx+XDnu0w=
=dpNK
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:16 ` Chris Brennan
@ 2008-03-15 16:19   ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 16:58     ` Strong Cypher
  2008-03-15 17:28     ` Rick van Hattem
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Gustavo Campos @ 2008-03-15 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Well, ther must be some Firefox extension too, probably - gone searching.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  Hash: SHA1
>
>  I dunno if gmail can ... but I am sure thunderbird has some ext. that
>  might be able to help. For me, I don't see it, GNUpg just tells TB that
>  the message has been signed and that I can retrieve the pubkey if I wish to.
>
>
>  Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  | I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
>  | actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
>  | that damned clutter messages it generates.
>  |
>  | Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
>  | singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
>  | to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
>  | the public key stuff and all xD
>  |
>  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>  Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
>  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
>  iD8DBQFH2/ZH8hUIAnGfls4RAg+bAJ0Q1ys3kHnaFkwVi2uv6I8AqcyWwgCghl6u
>  lUbNufD8U9H6fGIx+XDnu0w=
>  =dpNK
>  -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>  --
>  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>



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Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:19   ` Gustavo Campos
@ 2008-03-15 16:58     ` Strong Cypher
  2008-03-15 17:03       ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 17:28     ` Rick van Hattem
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Strong Cypher @ 2008-03-15 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

why dont use the pgp mime mode? a join file with the signature message
dont disturb people without pgp mail client

On 3/15/08, Gustavo Campos <gucampos@dcc.ufmg.br> wrote:
> Well, ther must be some Firefox extension too, probably - gone searching.
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >  Hash: SHA1
> >
> >  I dunno if gmail can ... but I am sure thunderbird has some ext. that
> >  might be able to help. For me, I don't see it, GNUpg just tells TB that
> >  the message has been signed and that I can retrieve the pubkey if I wish
> to.
> >
> >
> >  Gustavo Campos wrote:
> >  | I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
> >  | actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
> >  | that damned clutter messages it generates.
> >  |
> >  | Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
> >  | singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
> >  | to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
> >  | the public key stuff and all xD
> >  |
> >  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >  Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
> >  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >
> >  iD8DBQFH2/ZH8hUIAnGfls4RAg+bAJ0Q1ys3kHnaFkwVi2uv6I8AqcyWwgCghl6u
> >  lUbNufD8U9H6fGIx+XDnu0w=
> >  =dpNK
> >  -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >  --
> >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gustavo Campos
>
> Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:58     ` Strong Cypher
@ 2008-03-15 17:03       ` Gustavo Campos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Gustavo Campos @ 2008-03-15 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Compatibility trouble?

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Strong Cypher <cypherstrong@gmail.com> wrote:
> why dont use the pgp mime mode? a join file with the signature message
>  dont disturb people without pgp mail client
>
>
>
>  On 3/15/08, Gustavo Campos <gucampos@dcc.ufmg.br> wrote:
>  > Well, ther must be some Firefox extension too, probably - gone searching.
>  >
>  > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
>  > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  > >  Hash: SHA1
>  > >
>  > >  I dunno if gmail can ... but I am sure thunderbird has some ext. that
>  > >  might be able to help. For me, I don't see it, GNUpg just tells TB that
>  > >  the message has been signed and that I can retrieve the pubkey if I wish
>  > to.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  > >  | I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
>  > >  | actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
>  > >  | that damned clutter messages it generates.
>  > >  |
>  > >  | Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
>  > >  | singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
>  > >  | to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
>  > >  | the public key stuff and all xD
>  > >  |
>  > >  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>  > >  Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
>  > >  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>  > >
>  > >  iD8DBQFH2/ZH8hUIAnGfls4RAg+bAJ0Q1ys3kHnaFkwVi2uv6I8AqcyWwgCghl6u
>  > >  lUbNufD8U9H6fGIx+XDnu0w=
>  > >  =dpNK
>  > >  -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>  > >  --
>  > >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Gustavo Campos
>  >
>  > Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
>  > --
>  > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>  >
>  >
>  --
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>



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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:10 [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 16:16 ` Chris Brennan
@ 2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-15 17:26   ` Gustavo Campos
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2008-03-16  7:12 ` Graham Murray
  2 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Matt Nordhoff @ 2008-03-15 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

I think it's funny that Enigmail isn't happy with any of the messages in
this thread. Mostly "Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found",
one "can't find the key to import".
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
@ 2008-03-15 17:26   ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-16  1:14   ` Chris Brennan
  2008-03-16  1:48   ` Kenneth Prugh
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Gustavo Campos @ 2008-03-15 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Life is pure irony

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Matt Nordhoff <mnordhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's funny that Enigmail isn't happy with any of the messages in
>  this thread. Mostly "Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found",
>  one "can't find the key to import".
>  --
>  --
>
>
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>



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Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:19   ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 16:58     ` Strong Cypher
@ 2008-03-15 17:28     ` Rick van Hattem
  2008-03-15 17:31       ` Matt Nordhoff
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Rick van Hattem @ 2008-03-15 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Gustavo Campos

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On Saturday 15 March 2008 17:19, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> Well, ther must be some Firefox extension too, probably - gone searching.
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >  Hash: SHA1
> >
> >  I dunno if gmail can ... but I am sure thunderbird has some ext. that
> >  might be able to help. For me, I don't see it, GNUpg just tells TB that
> >  the message has been signed and that I can retrieve the pubkey if I wish
> > to.
> >
> >  Gustavo Campos wrote:
> >  | I know it's good for all of us to know that we are tealking to
> >  | actually someone real, but I never got too much into PGP because of
> >  | that damned clutter messages it generates.
> >  |
> >  | Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
> >  | singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
> >  | to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
> >  | the public key stuff and all xD
> >
> >  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >  Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
> >  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >
> >  iD8DBQFH2/ZH8hUIAnGfls4RAg+bAJ0Q1ys3kHnaFkwVi2uv6I8AqcyWwgCghl6u
> >  lUbNufD8U9H6fGIx+XDnu0w=
> >  =dpNK
> >  -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >  --
> >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
> --
> Gustavo Campos
>
> Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG

There is a Firefox extension, but it seems the site is currently offline: 
http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org/

@Matt Nordhoff, how about my version? My key is available via a number of key 
servers.

-- 
Rick van Hattem	Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl

[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 17:28     ` Rick van Hattem
@ 2008-03-15 17:31       ` Matt Nordhoff
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Matt Nordhoff @ 2008-03-15 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Rick van Hattem wrote:
> @Matt Nordhoff, how about my version? My key is available via a number of key 
> servers.

Yay, you're good. Automatically found your key.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-15 17:26   ` Gustavo Campos
@ 2008-03-16  1:14   ` Chris Brennan
  2008-03-16  2:40     ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-16  1:48   ` Kenneth Prugh
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chris Brennan @ 2008-03-16  1:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

hmm odd ... everyone that has a key I've gotten automaticly ....

Matt Nordhoff wrote:
| I think it's funny that Enigmail isn't happy with any of the messages in
| this thread. Mostly "Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found",
| one "can't find the key to import".
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFH3HSB8hUIAnGfls4RAu3LAJ0e9wNWNcv5ODpTqV1OfppLNLni8wCfdcIg
9/zEhDKtnP+bKqju+KBmujw=
=qitH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-15 17:26   ` Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-16  1:14   ` Chris Brennan
@ 2008-03-16  1:48   ` Kenneth Prugh
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Prugh @ 2008-03-16  1:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:25:28 +0000
Matt Nordhoff <mnordhoff@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it's funny that Enigmail isn't happy with any of the messages
> in this thread. Mostly "Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block
> found", one "can't find the key to import".

Claws isn't happy with any of the messages in this thread either. The
signatures validate but the message's have gpg crap everywhere.

-- 
Ken69267

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-16  1:14   ` Chris Brennan
@ 2008-03-16  2:40     ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-16  2:43       ` Chris Brennan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Matt Nordhoff @ 2008-03-16  2:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Chris Brennan wrote:
> hmm odd ... everyone that has a key I've gotten automaticly ....

Yeah, yours is the only one I'm having trouble with. :-P

Can't find it on any of the key servers I've tried.

(Note: I"m kind of a PGP newbie. I didn't look very hard.)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-16  2:40     ` Matt Nordhoff
@ 2008-03-16  2:43       ` Chris Brennan
  2008-03-16  2:47         ` Matt Nordhoff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chris Brennan @ 2008-03-16  2:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1



Matt Nordhoff wrote:
| Chris Brennan wrote:
|> hmm odd ... everyone that has a key I've gotten automaticly ....
|
| Yeah, yours is the only one I'm having trouble with. :-P
|
| Can't find it on any of the key servers I've tried.
|
| (Note: I"m kind of a PGP newbie. I didn't look very hard.)


mmm then I will regenerate my key and resubmit it later tonight ...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFH3IlY8hUIAnGfls4RAvaDAJ9nwmgDs0iilpt8DHptnLCkW7pTcACdFbUO
QD0SrdC4W+a+twgS58h0q/s=
=DDye
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-16  2:43       ` Chris Brennan
@ 2008-03-16  2:47         ` Matt Nordhoff
  2008-03-21 18:37           ` Eric Martin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Matt Nordhoff @ 2008-03-16  2:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Chris Brennan wrote:
> Matt Nordhoff wrote:
> | Yeah, yours is the only one I'm having trouble with. :-P
> |
> | Can't find it on any of the key servers I've tried.
> |
> | (Note: I"m kind of a PGP newbie. I didn't look very hard.)
> 
> 
> mmm then I will regenerate my key and resubmit it later tonight ...

Where did you submit it to? I mostly tried subkeys.pgp.net.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-15 16:10 [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients Gustavo Campos
  2008-03-15 16:16 ` Chris Brennan
  2008-03-15 17:25 ` Matt Nordhoff
@ 2008-03-16  7:12 ` Graham Murray
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Graham Murray @ 2008-03-16  7:12 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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"Gustavo Campos" <gucampos@dcc.ufmg.br> writes:

> Anyone knows if gmail (and the other clients) can "mask" the PGP
> singnatures from mail? For me at least it's pretty much enough for it
> to just show me that the message is indeed signed, I don'n care about
> the public key stuff and all xD

gnus lets you hide the PGP information, it also lets you see it if you
want to. 

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages & Email clients
  2008-03-16  2:47         ` Matt Nordhoff
@ 2008-03-21 18:37           ` Eric Martin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Eric Martin @ 2008-03-21 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Matt Nordhoff wrote:
> Chris Brennan wrote:
>   
>> Matt Nordhoff wrote:
>> | Yeah, yours is the only one I'm having trouble with. :-P
>> |
>> | Can't find it on any of the key servers I've tried.
>> |
>> | (Note: I"m kind of a PGP newbie. I didn't look very hard.)
>>
>>
>> mmm then I will regenerate my key and resubmit it later tonight ...
>>     
>
> Where did you submit it to? I mostly tried subkeys.pgp.net.
>   
Just checked today on subkeys.pgp.net and I can't get it.  From my 
understanding most of the servers sync so if you put it on one it's out 
there.  I think my pgp signature blocks are going out as signature.asc 
which is good for most people.  I'm using enigmail for thunderbird which 
is great.

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