From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D79138C48 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 439C7E094C; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jarl.yagibdah.de (unknown [185.55.75.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F268DE08F7 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from br-dmz-ip.yagibdah.de ([192.168.1.1] helo=heimdali.yagibdah.de) by jarl.yagibdah.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi7nL-0006q3-2Y for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 22:50:55 +0200 Received: from lee by heimdali.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi7nL-0002vN-0L for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 22:50:55 +0200 From: lee To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself In-Reply-To: (hydra's message of "Sun, 5 Apr 2015 07:19:26 +0200") Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 23:43:02 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87wq1mjnyx.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> References: <87384gni7b.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: 764a57f8-6333-4946-a48e-54df899135b4 X-Archives-Hash: 8f0c9a4ef81a9eefd33d33f5f7bffa01 hydra writes: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM, lee wrote: > >> symack writes: >> >> Other than that, unless you really do need full virtualization: I'm >> finding Linux containers to be far more manageable than virtual >> machines, and much more efficient. >> >> > Can you please post some more details? About containers? There's very useful documentation about them like https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LXC ... What can I say? Virtualization with xen is like juggling with a set of black boxes each of which aren't exactly accessible; the documentation sucks, it's hard work to get it running and likewise hard to maintain. Virtualization with containers is basically as simple as running just another daemon. Which the "better" tool, or combination of tools is, depends on what you want to accomplish. You could use containers in a VM, too, or use virtualbox along with containers to run the odd VMs that require full virtualzation. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.