From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L0JxI-00069J-AB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3538E04EC; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA19E04EC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9404B64521 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.011 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.588, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KJVdLb42vxnp for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C13642CF for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L0Jx4-0007nS-1B for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:26 +0000 Received: from c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:26 +0000 Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:56:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Harry Putnam Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Transferring an existing install to new disk Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:56:16 -0600 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87vdusomkf.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87d4h1pfaz.fsf@newsguy.com> <20081112103555.567774f0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <878wrpoxbs.fsf@newsguy.com> <20081112145304.7addf5c0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <87zlk5ndsf.fsf@newsguy.com> <20081112162010.45b5d21d@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:05Ex5hBPbtuGVILoTgCL0VhwF/o= Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 2788b082-abd5-4868-b885-fc7792ace6c7 X-Archives-Hash: a84d7c95fba81314d38f49d82a7bb311 Neil Bothwick writes: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:51:12 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> > So boot your existing Gentoo setup as usual, then follow the handbook >> > to install on the new disk. You do not have to boot from a live CD to >> > install Gentoo, and suitable working Linux environment will do the >> > job, and an existing Gentoo installation is more than suitable. >> >> There still seems to be some misunderstanding. >> >> I want to build up a fresh install somewhere besides my existing >> desktop OS (gentoo). Leave the existing setup alone for now. > > Which is what a chroot install does. > >> Get the fresh install up to speed so it is a fresh and new >> approximation of my desktop OS. > > Ditto. > >> And finally overwrite the desktop OS with the newly built one. > > Overwrite? Where does the new disk come into it then? New as in new to the built up install. Perhaps a better choice would have been `different disk' > >> It sounds like what you are describing is just a new install using an >> exiting gentoo os instead of install disk. >> >> But the result would be a new install with nothing setup... on the >> desktop which is not what I want. > > Obviously, you would set everything up, but it would be made easier by > the fact you are running on the target machine, and everything is in > place. There's no copying entire systems over, just change the bootloader > config when it's ready. Ok, I see where your going here.... remove the notion of `new' disk. I don't have room for a new disk on the target machine, hence the idea of overwriting. But just talking about this much seems to indicate I'd be better off braving up and trying to clean up my existing install. Note a different thread where I've started on that mission: Subject: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem To be posted shortly