[gentoo-user] bbgallery and template files

[gentoo-user] bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

First if this ends up being a nearly duplicate post... my apologies.
I tried a similar version from a different machine that has apparently
not made it to the server.

I recently went looking for image manipulation tools in general and
web gallery software in particular... I found in portage something
called `bbgallery' which looks like a nice simple solution to my need.

However, after having emerged it and by reading the html docu that
comes with it, I'm told in the simplest case one can simply navigate
to a directory full of `*.jpg' and call:

 $ bbgallery

When I do that I get an error telling me bbgallery cannot find its
default template.  The docu suggests there should be a series of
templates created under /usr/lib/bbgallery/template.  However there is
not.
A full list of the pakgage files shows:

reader > qpkg -l bbgallery
app-misc/bbgallery-1.2.0 *
CONTENTS:
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/bbgallery
/usr/bin/JPG2jpg
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/bbgallery
/usr/lib/bbgallery/gimp_scale.pl
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/templates.html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/installation.html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/index.html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/download.html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/usage.html
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/CHANGELOG.gz
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/README.gz
/usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/CREDITS.gz

No templates at all.

Any one here have experience with this tool or can suggest a debugging
approach.   I've written to mail address found on its sourceforge home
page bb@bb_zone.com but it bounces.

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RE: [gentoo-user] bbgallery and template files

[Dave Nebinger]

> No templates at all.
> 
> Any one here have experience with this tool or can suggest a debugging
> approach.

First, file it as a bug as the ebuild would be incomplete.

Second, you might need to build the package from scratch in order to
determine if it is a build issue in general (i.e. perhaps there's some
option you need to give to configure or make in order to get the templates).

If you figure out how to get the templates include that with your bug
report.

Dave



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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

"Dave Nebinger" <dnebinger@joat.com> writes:

>> No templates at all.
>> 
>> Any one here have experience with this tool or can suggest a debugging
>> approach.
>
> First, file it as a bug as the ebuild would be incomplete.
>
> Second, you might need to build the package from scratch in order to
> determine if it is a build issue in general (i.e. perhaps there's some
> option you need to give to configure or make in order to get the templates).
>
> If you figure out how to get the templates include that with your bug
> report.

A little further input here:

building from scratch produces no errors but when the binary is run it
errors out looking for Gimp.pm which needs to be installed.

emerge doesn't list this as a dependancy.

However using cpan I attempted to install that package (Gimp::Module)
It fails to build with cpan with this error:
[...]
 
  now invoking perl to complete the configuration...
  1887: exec /usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL --writemakefile PREFIX=/usr

  FATAL: unable to deduce plugindir from gimptool script

  Running make test
    Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test
  Running make install
    Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't install


any one see the bug?

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Re: [gentoo-user] bbgallery and template files

[Holly Bostick]

Harry Putnam schreef:
> First if this ends up being a nearly duplicate post... my apologies.
> I tried a similar version from a different machine that has apparently
> not made it to the server.
> 
> I recently went looking for image manipulation tools in general and
> web gallery software in particular... I found in portage something
> called `bbgallery' which looks like a nice simple solution to my need.
> 
> However, after having emerged it and by reading the html docu that
> comes with it, I'm told in the simplest case one can simply navigate
> to a directory full of `*.jpg' and call:
> 
>  $ bbgallery
> 
> When I do that I get an error telling me bbgallery cannot find its
> default template.  The docu suggests there should be a series of
> templates created under /usr/lib/bbgallery/template.  However there is
> not.
> A full list of the pakgage files shows:
> 
> reader > qpkg -l bbgallery
> app-misc/bbgallery-1.2.0 *
> CONTENTS:
> /usr
> /usr/bin
> /usr/bin/bbgallery
> /usr/bin/JPG2jpg
> /usr/lib
> /usr/lib/bbgallery
> /usr/lib/bbgallery/gimp_scale.pl
> /usr/share
> /usr/share/doc
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/templates.html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/installation.html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/index.html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/download.html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/html/usage.html
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/CHANGELOG.gz
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/README.gz
> /usr/share/doc/bbgallery-1.2.0/CREDITS.gz
> 
> No templates at all.
> 
> Any one here have experience with this tool or can suggest a debugging
> approach.   I've written to mail address found on its sourceforge home
> page bb@bb_zone.com but it bounces.
> 

I've just looked at the ebuild:

DESCRIPTION="Webpage image gallery creation perl script"
HOMEPAGE="http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/"
SRC_URI="mirror://sourceforge/bbgallery/${P}.tar.bz2"

SLOT="0"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
KEYWORDS="x86 ppc ~sparc alpha amd64"
IUSE=""

RDEPEND="media-gfx/gimp
         dev-lang/perl
         media-gfx/imagemagick
         dev-perl/URI
         dev-perl/libwww-perl
         dev-perl/HTML-Template
         dev-perl/HTML-Parser"


I would assume that HTML-Template is responsible for building the
templates (on first run, possibly)?

So then I went to see if there was a possibility that you might have
disabled HTML-Parser via USE flags:

emerge -pv bbgallery

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/HTML-Template-2.7  61 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.51  114 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libnet-1.19  63 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.800  +ssl 223 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-misc/bbgallery-1.2.0  32 kB

... but there isn't so that wouldn't seem to be it.

Were there any errors in the emerge log? It can certainly happen that a
program could emerge successfully without building all of its parts. Not
often, but it can happen. Are there any bugs listed in b.g.o wrt this
app? Is dev-perl/HTML-Template installed? Are you possibly having other
issues with Perl (recent upgrade of), and need to run perl-cleaner?

That's all I can think of, until someone who meets your criterion
(experience with the specific tool) comes along :) .

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] bbgallery and template files

[Roy Wright]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>Harry Putnam schreef:
>  
>
>>First if this ends up being a nearly duplicate post... my apologies.
>>I tried a similar version from a different machine that has apparently
>>not made it to the server.
>>
>>I recently went looking for image manipulation tools in general and
>>web gallery software in particular... I found in portage something
>>called `bbgallery' which looks like a nice simple solution to my need.
>>
>>However, after having emerged it and by reading the html docu that
>>comes with it, I'm told in the simplest case one can simply navigate
>>to a directory full of `*.jpg' and call:
>>
>> $ bbgallery
>>
>>When I do that I get an error telling me bbgallery cannot find its
>>default template.  The docu suggests there should be a series of
>>templates created under /usr/lib/bbgallery/template.  However there is
>>not.
>>A full list of the pakgage files shows:
>>    
>>
[snip]

>>No templates at all.
>>
>>Any one here have experience with this tool or can suggest a debugging
>>approach.   I've written to mail address found on its sourceforge home
>>page bb@bb_zone.com but it bounces.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I've just looked at the ebuild:
>
>DESCRIPTION="Webpage image gallery creation perl script"
>HOMEPAGE="http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/"
>SRC_URI="mirror://sourceforge/bbgallery/${P}.tar.bz2"
>
>SLOT="0"
>LICENSE="GPL-2"
>KEYWORDS="x86 ppc ~sparc alpha amd64"
>IUSE=""
>
>RDEPEND="media-gfx/gimp
>         dev-lang/perl
>         media-gfx/imagemagick
>         dev-perl/URI
>         dev-perl/libwww-perl
>         dev-perl/HTML-Template
>         dev-perl/HTML-Parser"
>
>
>I would assume that HTML-Template is responsible for building the
>templates (on first run, possibly)?
>
>So then I went to see if there was a possibility that you might have
>disabled HTML-Parser via USE flags:
>
>emerge -pv bbgallery
>
>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
>Calculating dependencies ...done!
>[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/HTML-Template-2.7  61 kB
>[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.51  114 kB
>[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libnet-1.19  63 kB
>[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.800  +ssl 223 kB
>[ebuild  N    ] app-misc/bbgallery-1.2.0  32 kB
>
>... but there isn't so that wouldn't seem to be it.
>
>Were there any errors in the emerge log? It can certainly happen that a
>program could emerge successfully without building all of its parts. Not
>often, but it can happen. Are there any bugs listed in b.g.o wrt this
>app? Is dev-perl/HTML-Template installed? Are you possibly having other
>issues with Perl (recent upgrade of), and need to run perl-cleaner?
>
>That's all I can think of, until someone who meets your criterion
>(experience with the specific tool) comes along :) .
>
>HTH,
>Holly
>  
>
I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.  As I needed the
gallery at that instance, I just specified the template on the command
line:

  bbgallery -T monochrome

Note that there is not a "default" template installed into 
/usr/lib/bbgallery.

Also noticed that --meta did not apear to work.  I didn't notice any
problems building.

HTH,
Roy
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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> writes:
[...]

> I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.  As I needed the
> gallery at that instance, I just specified the template on the command
> line:
>
>  bbgallery -T monochrome

That doesn't work here:
reader > bbgallery -T monochrome
ERROR: Templates not found: monochrome

> Note that there is not a "default" template installed into 
> /usr/lib/bbgallery.

Well according to the installed docu.. there is supposed to be:

>From the `Usage' html page: (Note the last item)

 Now run bbgallery to create the galleries. Without any parameters it
 will use the following default values:

    * Look for images in the default directory
    * Create index pages with up to 25 thumbnails
    * Have up to five thumbnails in one row
    * Use Gallery as title for the index pages
    * Be quiet. Don't produce any output on SDTOUT
    * Delay pages in the slide show for 15 seconds
    * Create links to the meta index
    * Thumbnails are scalled to 100 pixels
    * Images are scaled to 800 pixels
    * Short descriptions in the index page
    * The default template will be used

I believe my troubles are arising from the fact that a required
package (Gimp::Module) is not present on my system.  It appears to be
the tool that creates the templates.

So far I've been unsuccessfull installing it via cpan as reported in
previous post.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Roy Wright]

Harry Putnam wrote:

>Well according to the installed docu.. there is supposed to be:
>
>>From the `Usage' html page: (Note the last item)
>
> Now run bbgallery to create the galleries. Without any parameters it
> will use the following default values:
>
>    * Look for images in the default directory
>    * Create index pages with up to 25 thumbnails
>    * Have up to five thumbnails in one row
>    * Use Gallery as title for the index pages
>    * Be quiet. Don't produce any output on SDTOUT
>    * Delay pages in the slide show for 15 seconds
>    * Create links to the meta index
>    * Thumbnails are scalled to 100 pixels
>    * Images are scaled to 800 pixels
>    * Short descriptions in the index page
>    * The default template will be used
>
>I believe my troubles are arising from the fact that a required
>package (Gimp::Module) is not present on my system.  It appears to be
>the tool that creates the templates.
>
>So far I've been unsuccessfull installing it via cpan as reported in
>previous post.
>
>  
>
emerge gimp-perl

On the templates, I think the missing "default" template is an 
installation error. 
I looked thru the perl script and did not see any special handling for 
"default". 
The $P{template} is just initialized to 'default'.  On
http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/templates.html, only two templates are
mentioned, monochrome and oldstyle.  Then some instruction on how to modify
the templates.  My guess is the author intends for you to link
/usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default to your preferred template.  Example:

  ln -s /usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default 
/usr/lib/bbgallery/template/monochrome

In summary the ebuild is probably missing the gimp-perl dependency
and performing the default template link.

HTH,
Roy
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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> writes:

I had searched portage before posting about gimp-perl.  It's not in
my portage tree which is somewhat out of date.  That led me to think
it was not available via the normal gentoo channel hence my attempts
to use cpan to install it.

> emerge gimp-perl

How can I get that package without a full on update of portage which I
don't want to do right now?

> On the templates, I think the missing "default" template is an 
> installation error. 
> I looked thru the perl script and did not see any special handling for 
> "default". 
> The $P{template} is just initialized to 'default'.  On
> http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/templates.html, only two templates are
> mentioned, monochrome and oldstyle.  Then some instruction on how to modify
> the templates.  My guess is the author intends for you to link
> /usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default to your preferred template.  Example:
>
>  ln -s /usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default 
> /usr/lib/bbgallery/template/monochrome
>
> In summary the ebuild is probably missing the gimp-perl dependency
> and performing the default template link.

No such links appear after `emerge -v bbgallery'  so I guess not.


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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

>
>> emerge gimp-perl
>
> How can I get that package without a full on update of portage which I
> don't want to do right now?

I've downloaded todays snapshot of protage and extracted
gimp-perl. Placed it in my portage tree.  Then unmasked it with
package.keyword file and ran `emerge -v -p gimp-perl and then without
-p.

The build pulled in 20 other perl packages and is running currently.
Should I expect trouble from doing it this way?

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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

After installing gimp-perl and all its dependancies I've unmerged
bbgallery and re emerged it.

The result is exactly as before... I've made no progress at all.

cd to directory of *.jpg
reader > bbgallery -T monochrome
ERROR: Templates not found: monochrome

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:48:35 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> I've downloaded todays snapshot of protage and extracted
> gimp-perl. Placed it in my portage tree.  Then unmasked it with
> package.keyword file and ran `emerge -v -p gimp-perl and then without
> -p.
> 
> The build pulled in 20 other perl packages and is running currently.
> Should I expect trouble from doing it this way?

Yes, if the dependencies are not in your outdated portage tree, although
it appears you got away with it this time.

Why don't you want an up to date portage tree?


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it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way
is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:


>> The build pulled in 20 other perl packages and is running currently.
>> Should I expect trouble from doing it this way?
>
> Yes, if the dependencies are not in your outdated portage tree, although
> it appears you got away with it this time.
>
> Why don't you want an up to date portage tree?

Its not that I don't want an updated portage tree.   Its just that
I've let my installation get fairly aged while doing other things for
the last several mnths.  

In that time I've forgotten most of what goes into keeping an updated
system running smooth.

Last time I updated portage it seems I had lots of other things arise
from that.  It took a few weeks to get running smoothly again.

Right now I didn't want to spend the time on it since I'm heavily
involved with video editing on several projects and am in the middle
of getting my property ready for sale to boot.

I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole
system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will
require quite extensive reading.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Mike Williams]

On Saturday 27 August 2005 12:27, Harry Putnam wrote:
> I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole
> system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will
> require quite extensive reading.

emerge sync
emerge world -u
etc-update
revdep-rebuild

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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Mike Williams <mike@gaima.co.uk> writes:

> On Saturday 27 August 2005 12:27, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole
>> system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will
>> require quite extensive reading.
>
> emerge sync
> emerge world -u
> etc-update
> revdep-rebuild

Thanks for the simple outline...  That was so encouraging that I'm
going to get this done this morning... 
Thanks for the push.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Mike Williams]

On Saturday 27 August 2005 13:03, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Thanks for the simple outline...  That was so encouraging that I'm
> going to get this done this morning...
> Thanks for the push.

No problem, it really is that simple.
Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without 
an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. 
Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run 
my updates in a screen session, and if I'm working at the same time, nice'd 
19 (nice -n 19 emerge world....)

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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Mike Williams <mike@gaima.co.uk> writes:

> On Saturday 27 August 2005 13:03, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Thanks for the simple outline...  That was so encouraging that I'm
>> going to get this done this morning...
>> Thanks for the push.
>
> No problem, it really is that simple.
> Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without 
> an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. 
> Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run 
I see it may have been a bit optimistic... hehe

> my updates in a screen session, and if I'm working at the same time, nice'd 
> 19 (nice -n 19 emerge world....)

Well, my good fortune to run it full throttle since I have lots of
work outside this morning.

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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Mike Williams <mike@gaima.co.uk> writes:


> Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months
> without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots
> to compile.  Thankfully you can just leave it going in the
> background. I almost always run

This appears now to have been a rather hefty understatement.  I'm not
sure what time this morning I started on this but its now 6:34  where
I am and its still running strong.

This seems a bit long.... Is this a normal amount of time for an
update world to run (something like ten hours so far)?

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[Patrick Börjesson]

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On 05/08/27 18:35, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Mike Williams <mike@gaima.co.uk> writes:
> > Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months
> > without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots
> > to compile.  Thankfully you can just leave it going in the
> > background. I almost always run
> 
> This appears now to have been a rather hefty understatement.  I'm not
> sure what time this morning I started on this but its now 6:34  where
> I am and its still running strong.
> 
> This seems a bit long.... Is this a normal amount of time for an
> update world to run (something like ten hours so far)?

Definitely if you've kept off an update for more than a month! Things
like OpenOffice, KDE, glibc, and all the other behemoths take "a while" (like
up to a couple of hours, depending on CPU) to compile each. So 10 hours
is definitely not something to worry about. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files

[Harry Putnam]

Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>>Well according to the installed docu.. there is supposed to be:
>>
>>>From the `Usage' html page: (Note the last item)
>>
>> Now run bbgallery to create the galleries. Without any parameters it
>> will use the following default values:
>>
>>    * Look for images in the default directory
>>    * Create index pages with up to 25 thumbnails
>>    * Have up to five thumbnails in one row
>>    * Use Gallery as title for the index pages
>>    * Be quiet. Don't produce any output on SDTOUT
>>    * Delay pages in the slide show for 15 seconds
>>    * Create links to the meta index
>>    * Thumbnails are scalled to 100 pixels
>>    * Images are scaled to 800 pixels
>>    * Short descriptions in the index page
>>    * The default template will be used
>>
>>I believe my troubles are arising from the fact that a required
>>package (Gimp::Module) is not present on my system.  It appears to be
>>the tool that creates the templates.
>>
>>So far I've been unsuccessfull installing it via cpan as reported in
>>previous post.
>>
>>  
>>
> emerge gimp-perl
>
> On the templates, I think the missing "default" template is an 
> installation error. 
> I looked thru the perl script and did not see any special handling for 
> "default". 
> The $P{template} is just initialized to 'default'.  On
> http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/templates.html, only two templates are
> mentioned, monochrome and oldstyle.  Then some instruction on how to modify
> the templates.  My guess is the author intends for you to link
> /usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default to your preferred template.  Example:

But am I wrong in thinking the installation process is supposed to
create the monochrome and oldstyle sets in:

/usr/lib/bbgallery/template  ?

Here I see nothing like that happen even though I have now installed
gimp-perl.  And reinstalled bbgallery.

Can you coach me on creating these templates myself?  My perl skills
while deep enough for some fairly complex homemade scripts are not
deep enough to go thru the perl script and figure out what goes into a
template. 

Maybe I could just copy yours.. Do you have have something at:

/usr/lib/bbgallery/template?

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