From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O56h9-0007iF-DN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:24:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74203E07FA; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFD4E07FA for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92071B411E for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:23:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.399 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.800, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HW6F1UG8YB5O for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D431B410C for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O56gJ-0002rn-5h for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:23:43 +0200 Received: from c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:23:43 +0200 Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:23:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org connect(): No such file or directory From: Harry Putnam Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:23:34 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87sk6nj9tl.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <201004192251.11426.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <878w8is01u.fsf@newsguy.com> <201004211218.57483.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gXjUGMl1KGhB8V785T2VXiTXklE= X-Archives-Salt: 3d41cade-d93f-4f09-9a2c-1900f54a6795 X-Archives-Hash: 055376c3bc93527518a0b8d2f31753eb Alan McKinnon writes: > On Tuesday 20 April 2010 15:53:01 Harry Putnam wrote: >> I think you all are missing something... sendmail is better documented >> than any of the other pretenders. > > One has to understand what the various MTAs out there were built to do, and > what their "feature list" is: > > sendmail comes from ancient days. It was written to be able to route almost As ancient as 2007, at least one survey shows sendmail as still the most popular. One fairly recent survey sited on wikipedia shows sendmail as losing ground but still the most popular MTA.. at 29% of the surveyed market. Down from some 42% in 2001/3 That's a lot of `buggy whips'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendmail [...] In 2001, approximately 42% of the publicly-reachable mail-servers on the Internet ran Sendmail.[1] More recent surveys have suggested a decline, with 29.4% of mail servers in August 2007 detected as running Sendmail in a study performed by E-Soft, Inc.[2] Sendmail is trailed by Microsoft Exchange Server, Exim, and Postfix; these four being the only mail servers with more than 10% of the total. [...]