From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PCaLX-00023z-8e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C7C8E071C; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0559E071C for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311271BC178 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:59:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.775, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x3lewDL+Q8Bp for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582EF1BC176 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PCaJu-0004Fi-UN for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:59:46 +0100 Received: from 2.83.118.232 ([2.83.118.232]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:59:46 +0100 Received: from nunojsilva by 2.83.118.232 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:59:46 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Winter clock change did not happen Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:02:14 +0000 Message-ID: <87r5f6gxkp.fsf@ist.utl.pt> References: <201010310924.11434.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201010311133.09619.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <874oc2ij7z.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <201010311343.55429.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2.83.118.232 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+cxOHrKcWEIClkVrzvicngfDrwg= X-Archives-Salt: 121cdcf7-f753-4661-bbbe-fb524168e6df X-Archives-Hash: 8be81fb0a1f5b90c2ba5d570bc1d3acf Mick writes: > On Sunday 31 October 2010 13:29:20 Nuno J. Silva wrote: >> Mick writes: >> > On Sunday 31 October 2010 10:05:15 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> On Sunday 31 October 2010 09:34:25 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight >> >> > savings switches at the END of today not at the beginning >> >> >> >> That's not true in the UK: the switch is done at 02:00 on the Sunday. My >> >> Gentoo and Ubuntu boxes have switched to GMT correctly this morning, and >> >> so has the radio-synchronised clock on the kitchen wall. >> >> >> >> I think Mick does have a problem in his Gentoo setup. >> >> >> > :-( >> > >> > Thanks Peter, do you dual boot with MSWindows? >> > >> > I've noticed this problem on two different boxen, both of them dual boot >> > with MSWindows. A Gentoo only box of mine switched over to winter time >> > correctly - so it must be my dual boot set up that is causing this >> > problem. >> >> It is a problem caused by the settings needed for Linux to live with >> Windows on the same computer. > > Is there a fix? I thought that the setting of CLOCK="local" in > /etc/conf.d/clock was to address the problem of having to dual boot with > MSWindows. That is the setting I was talking about (I wonder why I said "setting*s*" before, sorry for that). It is used to address the problem that Windows expects the hardware clock to have the local time value (hence "local"), that is, what you see when you ask the computer what time is it. Because the usual setting is UTC, that is, time with no timezone and/or DST "shift" - GNU/linux does the math and shows you your local time. Local time clock forces you (or the OS) to change it every time there is some DST change. In other words, that makes linux use the hardware clock the same way windows uses it. -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg