From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LYrJv-0001Gz-1V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03C81E0338; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C44E0338 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE616B4EFB for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.539 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ewcnbUNFiYJS for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7079B4EDE for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LYrJa-0003PN-Ue for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:26 +0000 Received: from c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:26 +0000 Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:26:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Harry Putnam Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: spontaneous reboots.. what to look for Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:26:08 -0600 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87prhjrzvj.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87wsbrs1vv.fsf@newsguy.com> <5bdc1c8b0902151556n4e066b97ob7762fb1918da717@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Lrl5J8eBS9i7s/ZnQSX/oBDtTWw= Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 5b914a23-9636-4db4-a39b-a9527a5438bf X-Archives-Hash: fac922796141d3a628a606ac14740423 Mark Knecht writes: > Reseat memory and PCI cards, etc. Consider removing for a period of > time any hardware not absolutely necessary to debug the problem. (I.e. > - second video card, extra disk drives, extra network adapters, etc.) > Run memtest86 for a few days if you can spare the machine. Run > spinrite, etc., to look for drive problems. Open the box up and place > a fan blowing extra air for additional cooling. That all sound fairly drastic... wouldn't any or all of those problems leave some kind of track? Something I can look for short of tearing up the whole machine? I have had the experience of breaking something in the hardware by handling it when I really didn't need to. An expensive video card I had ( a few yrs ago) comes to mind The fit was so close that dicking around with it I broke off a small piece with some bit of circuitry in it. Of course I had problems with getting a viewable screen so ended up soldering it back in... (the piece, not card to pci slot.. hehe) That fell apart again in the same place later on and I ended up using a piece of bailing wire to wire it in place. Surprisingly it worked for a long time that way. Another time... I took my wifes' computer apart (bad idea), ostensibly adding memory and somehow broke one of the clamps holding the heatsink and fan onto the cpu. It could flop around quite a bit... but it actually worked like that. Eventually I wired it down too... Lasted a year or so. But in both cases it was quite a bit of grief. Before I retired.. I was a field construction boilermaker (weldor and rigger). For most of my time in that trade, anything less than 1/2" steel plate was viewed as sheet metal.. Most of the work was 1" and up. I didn't develop a nice light touch .. needless to say.