[gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

[gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

[Harry Putnam]

On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
wallpapers packaged with the install.

Other obvious changes are that ctrl-alt-bkspc no longer shuts X down
And the desktop seems to take a good bit longer to initially load.

xorg-server was one of the updates:
Dropping back one version on xorg-server did not help.
Updated was:     (~)1.6.3.901-r1
Dropped back to: (~)1.6.3.901

The x11 packages installed are listed below.  Notice the large number
of drivers... That's been like that for a good while since I don't
include a VIDEO_CARDS setting in /etc/make.conf.

(I tried it a few times... wrestling the nvidia and nv drivers, but
found just leaving it out allowed things to just work.)

I doubt the number of drivers is the source of my current trouble
since as I mentioned its been like that for mnths, possibly over a yr.
=====     *     =====     *     =====     *     =====
 qlop --list|grep 'Sep 13.*x11'

Sun Sep 13 06:45:35 2009 >>> x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.6
Sun Sep 13 06:46:57 2009 >>> x11-libs/pixman-0.16.0
Sun Sep 13 06:47:32 2009 >>> x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.13
Sun Sep 13 06:47:57 2009 >>> x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.0
Sun Sep 13 06:48:15 2009 >>> x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 06:48:55 2009 >>> x11-libs/libFS-1.0.2
Sun Sep 13 07:07:22 2009 >>> x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
Sun Sep 13 07:12:17 2009 >>> x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:23:01 2009 >>> x11-misc/x11vnc-0.9.8
Sun Sep 13 07:24:55 2009 >>> x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 09:14:28 2009 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r1
Sun Sep 13 09:17:00 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64-6.8.2
Sun Sep 13 09:17:27 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:18:39 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-20090907
Sun Sep 13 09:19:42 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-glint-1.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:20:10 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.1
Sun Sep 13 09:21:49 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.8.1
Sun Sep 13 09:23:31 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4
Sun Sep 13 09:24:48 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-sis-0.10.2
Sun Sep 13 09:25:21 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-10.16.7
Sun Sep 13 09:25:56 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic-1.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:26:38 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-savage-2.3.1
Sun Sep 13 09:27:16 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-r128-6.8.1
Sun Sep 13 09:28:00 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-trident-1.3.3
Sun Sep 13 09:28:49 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-mga-1.4.11
Sun Sep 13 09:29:21 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-tdfx-1.4.3
Sun Sep 13 09:29:46 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.2.1
Sun Sep 13 09:30:12 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-voodoo-1.2.3
Sun Sep 13 09:48:26 2009 >>> x11-libs/gtk+-2.16.5-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
> not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
> wallpapers packaged with the install.

Did you upgrade to jpeg-7 recently?

> Other obvious changes are that ctrl-alt-bkspc no longer shuts X down
> And the desktop seems to take a good bit longer to initially load.

The makers of Xorg have disabled ctrl-alt-backspace by default in
recent versions (since ~6 months ago or so?). Add this to your
.xinitrc (or whatever) to get this behavior back:
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> Other obvious changes are that ctrl-alt-bkspc no longer shuts X down
>> And the desktop seems to take a good bit longer to initially load.
>
> The makers of Xorg have disabled ctrl-alt-backspace by default in
> recent versions (since ~6 months ago or so?). Add this to your
> .xinitrc (or whatever) to get this behavior back:
> setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

Here's a page that has some other methods of re-enabling this hotkey
combination:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

[Mick]

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On Monday 14 September 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Hartman
>
> <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> Other obvious changes are that ctrl-alt-bkspc no longer shuts X down
> >> And the desktop seems to take a good bit longer to initially load.
> >
> > The makers of Xorg have disabled ctrl-alt-backspace by default in
> > recent versions (since ~6 months ago or so?). Add this to your
> > .xinitrc (or whatever) to get this behavior back:
> > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>
> Here's a page that has some other methods of re-enabling this hotkey
> combination:
>
> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9
>-10-karmic.html

I had made the entry in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi 
(slightly different place to the Ubuntu link above) but after a while I took 
it out as I was experimenting with stuff and the three finger salute has been 
working since.  I assumed that xorg fixed this RHL <aheam> feature change.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

[Harry Putnam]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
>> not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
>> wallpapers packaged with the install.
>
> Did you upgrade to jpeg-7 recently?

Sure did... at the same time as the other stuff Sep 13.

A couple of quick googles didn't enlighten me as to what difference
that might make.

The wall paper I had up before updating is a *.png file.

`equery files jpeg-7' turned up a /usr/share/doc/jpeg-7/usage.txt.bz2

Again... not much enlightenment there.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
>>> not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
>>> wallpapers packaged with the install.
>>
>> Did you upgrade to jpeg-7 recently?
>
> Sure did... at the same time as the other stuff Sep 13.
>
> A couple of quick googles didn't enlighten me as to what difference
> that might make.
>
> The wall paper I had up before updating is a *.png file.
>
> `equery files jpeg-7' turned up a /usr/share/doc/jpeg-7/usage.txt.bz2
>
> Again... not much enlightenment there.

In short, jpeg-7 breaks some things :) It's not compatible with
previous versions and while most programs don't have a problem with
that, some do.

I'm not sure exactly what causes XFCE to break, but gtk+ is broken
with jpeg-7 and causes other apps like gqview to be screwed up as
well. There's a patch on the gtk+ bugzilla that fixes it. If XFCE uses
gtk+ that might be the cause. Recompiling all of XFCE might fix it,
too.

[gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

[Harry Putnam]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> writes:

> In short, jpeg-7 breaks some things :) It's not compatible with
> previous versions and while most programs don't have a problem with
> that, some do.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what causes XFCE to break, but gtk+ is broken
> with jpeg-7 and causes other apps like gqview to be screwed up as
> well. There's a patch on the gtk+ bugzilla that fixes it. If XFCE uses
> gtk+ that might be the cause. Recompiling all of XFCE might fix it,
> too.

I see... thanks... I'm so lazy I've sort of gotten to liking no
background wallpaper... I imagine stuff will eventually start working
again with future updates... maybe I'll be ready for wallpaper again
by then.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In short, jpeg-7 breaks some things :) It's not compatible with
>> previous versions and while most programs don't have a problem with
>> that, some do.
>>
>> I'm not sure exactly what causes XFCE to break, but gtk+ is broken
>> with jpeg-7 and causes other apps like gqview to be screwed up as
>> well. There's a patch on the gtk+ bugzilla that fixes it. If XFCE uses
>> gtk+ that might be the cause. Recompiling all of XFCE might fix it,
>> too.
>
> I see... thanks... I'm so lazy I've sort of gotten to liking no
> background wallpaper... I imagine stuff will eventually start working
> again with future updates... maybe I'll be ready for wallpaper again
> by then.

I use XFCE on my laptop which I haven't used since jpeg-7 stuff came
down the pipe. I may try it again tonight and see if I can make the
problem go away. I'll let you know if I can find any solution.