Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

[gottlieb@nyu.edu]

On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
>>> [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for
>>> gnome-3.8.  I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building
>>> that one up.]
>>>
>>> On my main system (currently running openrc) I have masked all of
>>> gnome-3.8.  I wonder if this was an error and I can remove the
>>> mask.  Is it the case that
>>>
>>> 1.  Running openrc instead of systemd means you must mask gnome-3.8
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> 2.  It is ok to emerge gnome-3.8 without a mask but some pieces will
>>> stay at 3.6?
>>>
>>> In other words can I eliminate my file
>>>   /etc/portage/package.mask/gnome-3.8
>>> with all the 3.8 builds?
>>
>> Well, Canek is the systemd guru in this group, but I have been able
>> to boot my ~amd64 test machine successfully using *either* openrc or
>> systemd.
>>
>> This was a pleasant surprise to me because Canek posted not long ago
>> that openrc is now incompatible with systemd.
>
> I'm pretty sure I never said such thing. Both sys-apps/systemd and
> sys-apps/openrc satisfy virtual/service-manager, so if you installed
> systemd, OpenRC was depcleaned some days ago, but since bug 373219[1]
> hasn't been closed, they added OpenRC into the @system set, so now
> it's not even depcleaned. You can put -*sys-apps/openrc in
> /etc/portage/profile/package to solve that.
>
> No incompatibility, and I never said that.
>
>> Canek, please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a bit lost in the
>> details of the gnome3/systemd update at the moment.
>
> I believe you can install OpenRC and systemd in parallel without
> problems. GNOME 3 will pull systemd when installed, but that doesn't
> mean you will need to uninstall OpenRC. However, several GNOME
> packages (including gdm, if I'm not mistaken) will fail if not running
> with systemd as PID=1.
>
> I don't know how well it works OpenRC parallel installed with systemd,
> I haven't used it in years.
>
> Regards.
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219

Canek,  Thanks for this information.  But what about my original
question, namely

  Can I remove my masks and let gnome-3.8 replace 3.6 (to the
  extent portage let's it) while I am running openrc and do
  *not* have systemd installed?

thanks,
allan