From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08C41381F3 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC480E0C3B; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B940AE0C1D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r86KUC6k013746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7273A0055; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd References: <87ioye7pae.fsf@nyu.edu> <52292DA3.10101@gmail.com> <87ob85st54.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 16:30:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Canek =?utf-8?Q?Pel=C3=A1ez_Vald=C3=A9s=22's?= message of "Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:43:09 -0500") Message-ID: <87mwnpr8vf.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 290eb34a-3f26-4507-adf8-1464f6b108b8 X-Archives-Hash: 49968d21ae91010e6bb25910c0467774 On Fri, Sep 06 2013, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, wrote: >> >> Canek, Thanks for this information. But what about my original >> question, namely >> >> Can I remove my masks and let gnome-3.8 replace 3.6 (to the >> extent portage let's it) while I am running openrc and do >> *not* have systemd installed? > > No, you can't: systemd is now a requirement for GNOME 3; gdm-3.8.4 > requires systemd unconditionally. If you try to install GNOME 3.8, it > will install gdm 3.8.4, which will bring systemd. You cannot install > gdm without systemd; therefore, you cannot install gnome-base/gnome > without systemd. > > You could *try* to update the pieces of GNOME to 3.8 that doesn't > require systemd, but I don't think that will end happily. > > Regards. That is what I suspected. I will keep the gnome-3.8 packages masked while I build up an old system and then try to convert it to systemd. When the conversion succeeds, I will try to convert my real system. thanks again for your help, allan