From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623B31381F3 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF64E0D09; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEDB5E0D03 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8QFfsV9029280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 801C9A00BA; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev References: <87y56k1qvo.fsf@nyu.edu> <87mwn0xp66.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:41:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Canek =?utf-8?Q?Pel=C3=A1ez_Vald=C3=A9s=22's?= message of "Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:35:57 -0500") Message-ID: <87mwmzr3nh.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: fc88f4cf-aa35-4d09-b9ab-0c739c8443f6 X-Archives-Hash: e793e144f25120d543b4fa9dfc1e107f On Wed, Sep 25 2013, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM, wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 25 2013, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> >>> Don't mask anything, just make sure that systemd (both virtual/ and >>> sys-apps/) is not on package.keywords. >> >> This system is ~amd64 (I should have said that earlier). > >> I would create >> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/systemd >> and put in it two lines >> -~sys-apps/systemd >> -~virtual/udev >> > No, I thought you were in amd64, not ~amd64. If you are in ~amd64, > putting things in /etc/portage/package.keywords should be useless. Actually that is not correct. Note the - before the ~. I read man portage and found out about this (see below). It mentions running mostly stable and mostly unstable. > Mixing amd64 and ~amd64 is not supported; it usually works if you are > in amd64, and you only keyword some select packages: that's the way I > use GNOME 3.8, soon 3.10, in an otherwise stable system. It is true that the primary reason for my using testing is for gnome-3. My long term goal is to go to stable for my main system. But, of course, that takes quite a bit of time to let the unstable packages die off (or quite a bit of effort to force the downgrades). > If you are trying to downgrade systemd for the problems related to > GNOME and logind in 206, I'm happy to report that version 207 > (available since Sep 14) solves everything; at least in my desktop and > laptop. You should try it. I am running sys-apps/systemd-207-r2. Booting has become MUCH worse. I will send details to you off list. thanks again for your continual help, allan =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D man portage extract =3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D package.accept_keywords and package.keywords Per-package ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. Useful for mixing unstable packages in with a normally stable system or vice versa. This will allow ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to be augmented for a single package. [snip] Example: # always use unstable libgd media-libs/libgd ~x86 # only use stable mplayer media-video/mplayer -~x86