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From: gottlieb@nyu.edu
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 17:57:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhsfpeeg.fsf@nyu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B0759C.6030500@gmail.com> (Alan McKinnon's message of "Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:22:52 +0200")

On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
>> My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
>> system.  The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.
>> 
>> The 3 june news asserts "all systemd users are recommended to stay with
>> sys-power/upower".
>> 
>> However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
>> upower-pm-utils.
>> 
>> Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, "fixed" the
>> problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix.  I was a little
>> surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.
>> 
>> Any advice would be appreciated,
>> allan
>> 
>> PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
>> relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
>> Those systems have a less simple "goingstable" setup and are more
>> important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.
>
>
> Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>
> [ebuild     U  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE="emacs%* nls
> -xinerama" 2,556 kB
> [nomerge       ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE="bluetooth cdr classic
> cups extras -accessibility"
> [nomerge       ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE="bluetooth i18n
> networkmanager (-openrc-force)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
> [nomerge       ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
> USE="introspection -ios"
> [blocks b      ]    sys-power/upower ("sys-power/upower" is blocking
> sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
> [uninstall     ]     sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE="introspection -doc
> -ios"
> [ebuild  N     ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
> USE="introspection -ios" 0 kB
>
> That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
> reason it chose the one you do not want.
>
> Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
> ~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
> there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.
>
> Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
> and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.
>
> Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
> Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
> wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of
>
> equery depends upower
> equery depends upower-pm-utils

Yes it is the same general issue.  But I moved from my "goingstable"
laptop to my fully stable desktop, hoping it would be clearer.
I did run the emerge world with -t on the desktop.  I am now temporarily
removing the package.mask entry and running it again.  The output is

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE="bluetooth cdr classic cups extras -accessibility" 
[nomerge       ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE="bluetooth i18n networkmanager (-openrc-force)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[nomerge       ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE="introspection -ios" 
[blocks b      ]    sys-power/upower ("sys-power/upower" is blocking sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
[uninstall     ]     sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE="introspection -doc -ios" 
[ebuild  N     ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE="introspection -ios" 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Conflict: 1 block

I did not do this upgrade and with my package.mask in place, update
world says "nothing to merge".

The equery's give

allan ~ # equery depends upower
 * These packages depend on upower:
app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? <sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (<sys-power/upower-0.99[introspection])
gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (upower ? >=sys-power/upower-0.9.11)
                                        (upower ? <sys-power/upower-0.99)
net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower)
x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
allan ~ # equery depends upower-pm-utils
 * These packages depend on upower-pm-utils:
app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils[introspection])
gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
allan ~ # 

When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.
I will investigate them

513842 - talks about a upower mask from the openrc perspective
513700 - is about stabilizing upower-0.99.0-r1
512252 - again a problem for openrc users
515228 - talks about upower versions and differences with different systems.

One phrase from the last bug is "Probably we need to document this
better, for example in the wiki."

So perhaps the package.mask is not terrible.
Would you advise I put the package.mask in a "goingstable" laptop and
try an update world?  I do have two laptops whose configurations are
"close", one is my main system.  I would first update world on the other
one.

thanks again,
allan



  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-29 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-29 20:09 [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils gottlieb
2014-06-29 20:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-29 21:57   ` gottlieb [this message]
2014-06-29 22:12     ` gottlieb
2014-06-29 22:14     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-30  0:10       ` gottlieb

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