From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3711381F3 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D46D8E09FC; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB0DCE0964 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap-wireless.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6QDdZLI000446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap-wireless.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F4A6A0410; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch? References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51ED8E92.3020309@hadt.biz> <15636.1374548316@ccs.covici.com> <3622.1374571918@ccs.covici.com> <51EE4FC9.6070407@gmail.com> <87haflgrw5.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:39:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Canek =?utf-8?Q?Pel=C3=A1ez_Vald=C3=A9s=22's?= message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:19:57 -0500") Message-ID: <87k3kdzbhl.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 02a48f2b-e462-4505-8316-3a8f0a212265 X-Archives-Hash: 62e094d34601ecbedfa5bbf070404159 On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use >>> Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part >>> you don't have a choice about. >> >> Very clearly stated. Thanks. >> >> Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with consolekit and no systemd >> >> Since I wish to continue with Gnome3, I gather that at some point I will >> be reversing the above (consolekit out; systemd in). >> >> I was planning to wait for the devs to publish a conversion guide. > > As I said to Andr=C3=A1s, you have the wiki: I looked at the wiki and fear I need a pre-wiki, that is the wiki seems to assume you know a fair amount about systemd, which I don't. For example, it seems that instead of /etc/init.d and /etc/runlevels we have services. After running emerge --changed-use --deep @world must I check that every entry previously in /etc/init.d now has an entry in /usr/lib/systemd/system? What do I do if there is no corresponding entry? Similarly, the wiki talks about some configuration files (e.g. /etc/hostname replacing /etc/conf.d/hostname). But what about all the other files in /etc/conf.d? Do I just copy them to /etc? In summary I would hope that we get an introductory document (a simple conversion guide) as a pre-read before the wiki. The problem is not the wiki, but my lack of the prerequisite knowledge. "The fault, dear Brutus, in not in our stars, but in ourselves" thanks, allan