From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B2D138CC5 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 18:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59A31E08E2; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 18:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jarl.yagibdah.de (unknown [185.55.75.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19F47E0788 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 18:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from br-dmz-ip.yagibdah.de ([192.168.1.1] helo=heimdali.yagibdah.de) by jarl.yagibdah.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YZkN1-00038s-RV for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:13:07 +0100 Received: from lee by heimdali.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YZkN1-0006mH-NB for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:13:07 +0100 From: lee To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: blockage In-Reply-To: <550ED96E.1090300@gentoo.org> (Jonathan Callen's message of "Sun, 22 Mar 2015 11:02:06 -0400") Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:08:12 +0100 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87k2y8zz03.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> References: <87bnjl1zpq.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <550E8A48.9040409@gmail.com> <87zj75z4xw.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <550EA825.9030605@gmail.com> <87619tkwtf.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <550ED96E.1090300@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: ab82598f-3c94-4ba6-ba52-bb7dc8513590 X-Archives-Hash: 318e4df2ef863039cc9496b3d41faccf Jonathan Callen writes: > On 2015-03-22 09:04, lee wrote: >> Tom H writes: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Alan McKinnon >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It looks to me like sysvinit-2.88-r7 was stabilized and the >>>> maintainer of apcupsd didn't notice. From the ebuild for >>>> apcupsd-3.14.8-r2: >>>> >>>> DEPEND=" || ( >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.23[tty-helpers] >>>> <=sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4 sys-freebsd/freebsd-ubin ) >>>> >>>> What I suggest is copy that ebuild to your local overlay and >>>> update the DEPEND to <=sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r7 and redigest >>>> >>>> If that gives a correct update path for world, then file a bug >>>> against apcupsd. >>> >>> Some commands were moved from sysvinit to util-linux, and these >>> commands are required by apcupsd and are included in util-linux >>> if it's compiled with the "tty-helpers" use flag. >> >> Is this somehow reflected in the dependencies? And how could I >> deal with the multiple versions of util-linux that seem to be >> required? >> >> Perhaps I should forcefully update util-linux and use tty-helpers >> so that apcupsd still works in case I reboot. But what other >> problems might that cause? >> >> >> What am I supposed to think? Should we not update unless no >> problems are listed and just wait in case there are some, >> potentially having to wait indefinitely? How about security >> updates then? >> >> > > It is reflected in the dependencies by the fact that the first dep > (and generally the one chosen by portage) requires a new-enough > version of util-linux *with the "tty-helpers" USE flag enabled*. You > don't need multiple versions of anything installed. If you just add > "sys-apps/util-linux tty-helpers" to your /etc/portage/package.use > file and try again, you will likely find that portage will update > everything for you without any further issues. Oh that actually works! How is one supposed to know that this use flag must be added? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.